From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Tue Dec 5 22:30:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5E8E8549F; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E707602D; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3801027396; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vB5MUYAO024030 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:30:34 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id vB5MUXEJ024029; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:30:33 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Benno Rice cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Conclusion of fortune(6) discussion In-reply-to: <1512509473.1313677.1195210352.2DC7580C@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <1512509473.1313677.1195210352.2DC7580C@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <24027.1512513033.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 22:30:33 +0000 Message-ID: <24028.1512513033@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 23:09:50 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 22:30:57 -0000 -------- In message <1512509473.1313677.1195210352.2DC7580C@webmail.messagingengine= .com> , Benno Rice writes: > I acknowledge the history that the fortune files embody but we=E2=80=99r= e >not living in that history any more. We=E2=80=99re living now. The world = in 2017 >is not the world in 1987 or the world in 1997. To me this is the most convincing argument for getting rid of the old jokes: Fortune(6) as joke-supply only make sense if somebody humourously competent actively curate the collection of jokes. Distributing the same old jokes, year after year, release after release is a ritual, and it is certainly not funny. We can argue exactly how well curated the freebsd-tips are, but they are by definition fresh to their intended audience and even I will admit to having learned something from one or two of them. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .