From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Feb 28 10:21: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from bluebottle.calcaphon.com (calcaphon.demon.co.uk [193.237.19.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6659537B912; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:20:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Received: from henny.webweaving.org (dhcp36.calcaphon.com [10.0.1.36]) by bluebottle.calcaphon.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA07333; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:20:16 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06558; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:17:57 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:17:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: John Reynolds~ Cc: current@freebsd.org, qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation floppies and USB In-Reply-To: <14522.39273.53653.511902@hip186.ch.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Seeing that your USB controller fails to work properly when the FreeBSD kernel takes over, I bet somewhere there is a problem with shared interrupts. Because a USB keyboard here works either with USB support or without USB support compiled in. The only solution for you would be to compile a new kernel on a different system that includes USB support, or use a module that you load before the kernel is booted. And yes, USB only machines will be supported at some stage. But at the moment the USB kernel is too flakey to be in GENERIC. Nick On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [forwarded from -questions to the above groups because this seems to be a > legit "problem" and I wanted the "right eyes" in -current to see it. ] > > ------- start of forwarded message ------- > From: "John Daniels" > Subject: Installation floppies and USB > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:19:50 EST > > I have a system with only a *USB* keyboard port (no PS/2 or AT-style ports). > When I boot the installation floppies I get the message: > keyboard:no > After reading errata,release notes, etc., I learned that I should hit > 'enter' and type '-Dh' at the prompt, which I did. Now the installation > proceeds until the kernel is booted and the kernel configuration menu is > displayed (with 3 options: skip config, full-screen, CLI-mode). At that > point my keyboard becomes unusable. I believe that this may be because the > kernel ('GENERIC'?) doesn't include USB support. USB support is supposed to > be compiled in *after* an install. > > For my system, this is unacceptable. I now have a catch-22: I can't get USB > support until the kernel is recompiled, and I can't recompile the kernel > unless I can use the keyboard to install FreeBSD. > > My system was created by a major PC Manufacturer (Acer) and I'm sure that > they have sold thousands like it. I'm sure that they are not/will not be > the only manufacturer to create USB-only systems. My system uses Human > Interface Devices (HID) USB. It is *CRUCIAL* that USB keyboards be > recognized "out-of-the-box" for current and future systems that only support > USB keyboards. > > QUESTION: Are there work currently andy arounds/solutions in FreeBSD? When > can USB be available "out-of-the-box?" (I was hoping it would be in 4.0) > Lastly, the NetBSD install floppy recognizes my keyboard and lets me use it > during the install. Is there any possible workaround that includes booting > the NetBSD install disk, or installing FreeBSD over/after NetBSD? > > NOTE: There has already been at least one other FreeBSD newbie who has > encountered this problem (also with an Acer box), and there seems to be a > fair amount of USB questions/discussion online. > > Any info/help is greatly appreciated > > John > jmd526@hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > ------- end of forwarded message ------- > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message