Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:43:51 -0500 From: George Mitchell <george@m5p.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO Message-ID: <50967F27.80909@m5p.com> In-Reply-To: <20121103190930.GA23145@icarus.home.lan> References: <20121103190930.GA23145@icarus.home.lan>
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On 11/03/12 15:09, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > (Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -stable) > > I've CC'd Nathan Whitehorn, who according to bsdinstall(8) is the > author (not sure if maintainer) of the code. > > This default has already begun to bite users/SAs in the ass: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246069.html > > SU+J (the journalling part specifically) needs to be disabled by default > in the installer. This default was a very bad choice and should not > have been done. It either indicates someone was out of touch with the > rest of the issues surrounding the feature, or that someone > intentionally decided "it's the best way to get people using it for > testing" (I have seen this justification presented in the past, and it > is the wrong approach). > > However, since some people DO want it (and those folks don't use dump), > the installer should be modified to make SU+J support toggleable via a a > checkbox. The default, obviously, should be unchecked. > > If the user checks the checkbox, an ominous warning message should be > displayed informing the user of the repercussions. The only option at > that point should be "OK", after which the checkbox is checked. > > Do not tell me "send patches". This issue/problem has gone on long > enough, and the community bitched hard/long enough, that the person who > committed this default should be responsible for fixing it. > > We should operate under the assumption that this bug/problem will never > be fixed. It probably will be, but again, we must operate with the > assumption that Kirk et al will require years to fix it. (It has > already been something like 9 months. Or is it a year?) > > [...] I will give this comment a BIG, BIG, +1! -- George
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