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Date:      Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:05:13 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
Cc:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <20160311140513.GQ70809@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <56E2CEF9.3080200@quip.cz>
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 02:58:17PM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote:

> Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote on 03/11/2016 14:31:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 02:20:59PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 04:10:56PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 01:05:11PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >>> Case of only a few monolitic packages is essentiality simple then case
> >>> of 1000 combined packages.
> >> pkg info -a on one diff with pkg info -a on the other
> >> for the full content: pkg info -a --raw on both end and diff them.
> >>
> >> That should cover your case, no?
> >
> > No, that may cause a much false positive: slight different versions,
> > unimportant packets and etc. In 1000 packets this give to many noise.
> 
> If you don't need version numbers, you can list just package names
> pkg query %n
> or package origins
> pkg query %o

currently:

[...]
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
base
[...]

> Anything else is on your side and even if I understand your complaints 
> (and I agree with some of them) I don't thing it will change anything on 
> the future of packaged base.
> So it is better to spend our time on working local solution to new 
> problem. It has some pros and some cons and I hope the pros will 
> outweigh cons.

I am don't talk 'this is imposible'. I am talk 'this is awkward'.
What purpose for paclaging base system? packaging for packaging? Or
packaging for simplify and comfortably management, maintance and
upgrade?



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