From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 26 22:15:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00116 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:15:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00101 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA07519; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:13:45 -0800 (PST) To: Joe Greco cc: peter@taronga.com, bmk@fta.com, brantk@atlas.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Replacing sendmail In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:05:26 CST." <199611270405.WAA18185@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:13:45 -0800 Message-ID: <7517.849075225@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > However, you are also going to find that there are those of us who > are definitely "UNIX die-hards", but we just do not have the time in a day > to do all the things we would like to. Tools help. And they help a > lot. Oh, no argument at all there - why do you think I came up with the ports collection in the first place? :-) It was really aimed primarily at admins, like myself, who didn't want to have to remember all the details for building the dozens of tools they typically brought onto every new box. I started with a shell makefile for emacs, then bash, then I moved the common elements into a .mk file, then, well, the rest is history. :-) I'm all for making life easier, I just want to make sure that whatever we come up with can eventually be built into something as comprehensive as the ports collection has become under Satoshi's expert tutilage. Jordan