From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon May 7 22:22:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from stinky.ca.360networks.net (stinky.ca.360networks.net [64.251.100.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54B337B42C for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:22:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmayo@360networks.net) Received: by stinky.ca.360networks.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6F4EA60E01; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:22:03 -0700 From: Mark Mayo To: Dan Langille Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master Message-ID: <20010507222203.A98059@360networks.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@langille.org on Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:48:44PM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:48:44PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > On Tue, 8 May 2001, jason andrade wrote: > > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > > I have always kept one usable Alpha -current snapshot on the FTP site. > > > > current.freebsd.org isn't mirrored, thus anyone wanting to access it has > > > > to do to that one site. Why mirror ftp.freebsd.org at all then? > > > > BTW, my experiences for the past several years is that connectivity to > > > > current.freebsd.org is less than usable quite often. > > > > > > Well, I doubt that many people use the snaps at all. So I think having > > > separate sites for them is an OK idea. Perhaps we should keep a small > > > number of "known working" snaps on the ftp site, I guess. > > > > i also doubt many people use the snapshots. from observation, they either > > checkout stuff via cvsup and make world, or else they use the RCs when that > > is publicised. > > I know that the i386 snapshots are very useful. Rather than install > -release, you can install a snapshot and avoid the cvsup, build world, > etc. That capabaility is very useful for newbies. I know that I personally install FreeBSD from releng4 just about every install. Most people I know do the same. It makes it easy to track -STABLE, which is one of the main reasons I've continued to use FreeBSD over the years. I don't know if it's reasonable for all the FTP mirrors to grab nightly snapshots, however, each time something like releng4 (or ftp-master, or whatever) generates them. Did anybody keep stats on releng4 to gauge how popular the service was? Perhaps agreeing that the FTP mirrors will pick up the latest -STABLE snapshot once a week would be worthwile. Somehow I doubt people use the -CURRENT snapshots to the same extent, but I can't really comment since I generally only use -STABLE.. -Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message