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Date:      Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:34:05 +0100 (CET)
From:      sthaug@nethelp.no
To:        ronald-lists@klop.ws
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BIND chroot environment in 10-RELEASE...gone?
Message-ID:  <20141215.123405.74723741.sthaug@nethelp.no>
In-Reply-To: <op.xqwlh6utkndu52@ronaldradial.radialsg.local>
References:  <20131203.223612.74719903.sthaug@nethelp.no> <20141215.082038.41648681.sthaug@nethelp.no> <op.xqwlh6utkndu52@ronaldradial.radialsg.local>

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> > <rant>
> > Removing the changeroot environment and symlinking logic is a net
> > disservice to the FreeBSD community, and disincentive to use FreeBSD.
> > </rant>
> >
> > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no
> 
> Isn't this reasoning a bit flawed? Something hurt you so you state it is  
> hurting a whole community.
> 
> I, for one, am glad the security updates of the Bind software are now  
> better maintainable across all FreeBSD version.

I don't see the connection between removing BIND from the base system
(I agree that this makes BIND updates better maintainable) and the
complete removal of the changeroot/symlink functionality.

> NB: using a jail might give an easier to maintain secure environment for  
> bind than a chroot. With more restrictions to the process also.

Absolutely agree. However, that requires time to learn jails properly,
which I don't have right now. Thus *for me*, it would have been much
nicer if the BIND ports had kept the changeroot/symlink functionality
that (as far as I know) Doug Barton put in.

I don't claim to speak for anybody but myself :-)

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no



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