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Date:      Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:37:22 -0500 (EST)
From:      "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>
To:        "Chad R. Larson" <chad@DCFinc.com>
Cc:        jim@siteplus.net, hm@hcs.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: strange 3Com 3C509 probe behaviour
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103300130190.54019-100000@sasami.jurai.net>
In-Reply-To: <200103300628.XAA06341@freeway.dcfinc.com>

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Chad R. Larson wrote:
> Unless the card is non-conforming or broken.
> 
> Not all hardware implements the standards correctly.  Sometimes the
> standards are vague, or don't address certain areas so the microcoder
> improvises.  Or, the standard is being read by someone for whom
> English is not their native tongue and they just get it wrong.

Hints have nothing to do with the PnP system.

Try again.

Hints are not useful for a card like the 3c509 which supports a mechanism
to enumerate cards and determine their configuration.  Note that this
recent problem didn't result in the card being unusable; it just confused
the driver when the detected card was configured out from under it by the
PnP system.  Clearly there is some failing of ep_isa_identify() to
correctly note that a particular card is in PnP mode.

Fussing about the PnP system in general is silly when we're talking about
the 3c509; if you want to hardcode the card and lock down the resources,
take it out of PnP mode already.

</rant>

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