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Date:      Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:33:59 -0500
From:      Charles Howse <chowse@charter.net>
To:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Physical location of cvsup servers
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On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:

> Charles Howse wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>
>>> What do you want to achieve? fastest_cvsup will tell you  
>>> addressing of
>>> the servers. You will have to contact those responsible for the  
>>> IPs to
>>> see where they are located to ensure any form of accuracy regarding
>>> geo-location.
>>
>> Mainly, it's curiosity.  I know-fer-a-fact I saw a list of physical
>> locations back when 4.x was the latest release.  Probably been  
>> deleted.
>>
>> fastest_cvsup usually tells me #17 is fastest, but it times out a  
>> lot, I
>> mean A LOT, from here.
>
> Fastest, (in this case) != most reliable.
>
> Can you produce the output of fastest_cvsup, include the top two  
> results
> (add #17 if it isn't included), and then provide the output of a
> traceroute to #17?

root@curly /root# fastest_cvsup -c us
 >>  Querying servers in countries: us
--> Connecting to cvsup.us.freebsd.org [198.104.69.57]...
     * error: connect: timeout
--> Connecting to cvsup2.us.freebsd.org [130.94.149.166]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 62.86 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup3.us.freebsd.org [128.31.0.28]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 55.50 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup4.us.freebsd.org [204.152.184.73]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 90.92 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup5.us.freebsd.org [208.83.20.166]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 81.31 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup6.us.freebsd.org [216.14.98.190]...
     * error: connect: timeout
--> Connecting to cvsup7.us.freebsd.org [128.205.32.60]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 67.65 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup8.us.freebsd.org [216.165.129.134]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 68.22 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup9.us.freebsd.org [128.205.32.21]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 66.51 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup10.us.freebsd.org [69.147.83.48]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 97.16 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup11.us.freebsd.org [63.87.62.77]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 50.68 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup12.us.freebsd.org [128.46.156.46]...
     * error: connect: timeout
--> Connecting to cvsup13.us.freebsd.org [216.32.84.70]...
     * error: connect: Invalid argument
--> Connecting to cvsup14.us.freebsd.org [216.87.87.128]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 119.39 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup15.us.freebsd.org [35.9.37.225]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 57.43 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup16.us.freebsd.org [128.143.108.35]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 63.13 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup17.us.freebsd.org [65.212.71.21]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 34.74 ms
--> Connecting to cvsup18.us.freebsd.org [128.205.32.60]...
     - server replied: OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready
     - time taken: 61.17 ms

 >>  Speed Daemons:
     - 1st: cvsup17.us.freebsd.org   34.74 ms
     - 2st: cvsup11.us.freebsd.org   50.68 ms
     - 3st: cvsup3.us.freebsd.org    55.50 ms

For some reason, traceroute has never worked on any of my *nix boxes.
There are soooo many reasons that might cause that.  Too many to go  
into, but mostly the way I set up my lan, the router settings and  
options, etc.

I have 2 FreeBSD, a Mac, and an XP machine.
On the XP machine, tracert times out after 12 hops, however the ip did  
resolve to.....
"THE WEATHER CHANNEL" - ncvsup.twc.waether.com
That in itself may be reason enough for the timeouts...?

>
>
> Perhaps you have a faulty asymmetric path to 17...
>
> It is important to know that just because a server may be literally
> located at the building across the street, it doesn't mean that you  
> are
> guaranteed a path that may not cross the country (and in some
> situations, across an ocean) and back.
>
> I don't know where you are located, but generally, I've found cvsup8  
> to
> be extremely quick (in terms of latency) and very reliable for a  
> number
> of years.

I'm in Central West Tennessee.
>
>
> Steve




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