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Date:      Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:20:33 +0100 (MET)
From:      Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
To:        shimon@simon-shapiro.org
Cc:        julian@whistle.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SCSI Bus redundancy...
Message-ID:  <199803050720.IAA08143@yedi.iaf.nl>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.980304152804.shimon@simon-shapiro.org> from Simon Shapiro at "Mar 4, 98 03:28:04 pm"

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As Simon Shapiro wrote...
> 
> On 04-Mar-98 Wilko Bulte wrote:
>  
> ...
> 
> > free, like a $10-15 pricepoint. No real use for it here, but maybe fun
> > to play with. Like the FDDI network here ;-)
> 
> I am using FDDI (CDDI) here on my development setup.  The DEC cards
> supported by FreeBSD.  Very boring setup;  You plug them in and it works. 

Same experience here. 'Just works'.  Picked mine up for $ 5 a piece.
Should've bought more :<

> Nice thing is it provides redundancy and does not need an expensive switch.

I'm trying to get a FDDI hub, don't want to power up all boxes to use FDDI.

> >  An extra power supply is money well spent. We ship all our standalone
> >  arrays at least with N+1, optional 2N power. 2N gives you 2 seperate
> >  power entry points to the power grid. Now we only need to educate people
> >  to use two different power branches (phases? what's the right English
> > term?)
> 
> The old DPT 9W tower (made by DEC) had an interesting feature, where the
> power INPUT was switchable too.  If the AC to one supply went dowm it will
> draw AC from the other.
> 
> Yes, 2N P/S is trivial to do (2 diods/circuit if I remember right) and
> cheap.  Technically, you want each supply fed from a different phase.  In
> the US they are referredto as ``independant circuits''.  I have seen people
> paying lots of money to get that, where they have 220V right in the same
> room (220BAC in the US is 2-phases, 180 degrees apart, unlike the European
> 3 phasees 120 degrees apart.  Yest, you can get 3phase circuits in the US
> too).  The hot wire in a 220VAC, in the us is 117VAC to ground, 220VAC
> hot-hot.

I don't think you can get 2phase power here. We're slowly moving from 220 ->
230. And ultimatly to 240. And 50Hz iso 60Hz op course.

> >> To have the kernel actually checkpoint itself, with any better
> >> resolution,
> >> or intelligence will have to change too many things.  I am trying to
> >> make
> > 
> >  OK, that was my original question. Had a bad feeling about exactly what
> > you mention here.
> 
> What's bad? I would like to know if you think there is a mistake here.

Well, bad in the sense of very complicated. Not in the sense of mistake.
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