Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:21:29 +1000 From: Greg Black <gjb@comkey.com.au> To: Brett Taylor <brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WindowMaker Message-ID: <19990209112130.17119.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902081417210.14869-100000@peloton.physics.montana.edu> of Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:31:16 MST References: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902081417210.14869-100000@peloton.physics.montana.edu>
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> > I'd be interested to know if the update has any significant new > > features and/or altered functionality or if it's just some bug fixes. > > I had a look at the version on the 2.2.8 CDs and thought it was > > pleasant enough but fatally flawed for my customers because of the > > clumsy method for navigating between desktops. Has that been improved? > > You can read the ChangeLog if you want: > > http://www.windowmaker.org/src/ChangeLog Thanks. > Window Maker is not flawed in getting between desktops. If my customers tell me that it's flawed, then it is flawed. End of discussion. > There is however > no pager which may be what you're used to. Coming from AfterStep I was > used to that and initially disliked the fact that Window Maker didn't have > one as well. I've since found using a pager to be awkward. That's obviously personal preference. I'm used to using both keys and mice for that (my preferred window manager is fvwm2 which is good that way but is unfortunately broken under FreeBSD-2.2.8) -- but my customers, who are the people I have to please when I set up systems, want a pager. > There are a > number of ways to get around from desktop to desktop: > > - the clip No good, because you have to get it to display the desktops first and then select one. These people find that rather clumsy. > - stick the "Workspaces" menu to the desktop and use that instead They're not very good at actually doing things like that, so it's not an option. And it is much more difficult than just clicking in a pager box that's always there. > - use the keyboard shortcuts to move around For reasons that aren't important here, they want to use the mouse rather than compound keyboard tricks. That's their choice, but it all adds up to windowmaker not being a suitable tool. I was just curious to see if it had perhaps adopted a pager for this kind of user, because the rest of the program is really very nice and would have been a good choice. I'm not about to go badmouthing it because it doesn't do what these people need, I was just curious about its current direction. -- Greg Black <gjb@acm.org> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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