From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 23 05:01:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23785 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23780 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id OAA19189 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:01:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from plm.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id NAA21780 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:47:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from plm@localhost) by plm.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00295; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:32:01 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Laptops. Is something missing? References: <87iv6xcaz0.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id> From: Peter Mutsaers Date: 23 Nov 1996 12:32:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: Doug White's message of Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:36:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <87iv6xt5ce.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> Lines: 48 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.39/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:36:09 -0800 (PST), Doug White >> said: DW> On 20 Nov 1996, Peter Mutsaers wrote: JH> Also, someone posted this URL a while back, which should help you out: JH> http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa/PAO/ >> >> Aha, this URL is very useful. There is a complete pcmcia package with >> many drivers. I have a Megahertz pcmcia ethernet card which is >> supported. It is only surprising that this is not in the standard >> (current) kernel since it would save a lot of people the work of >> patching the kernel sources etc. DW> The problem is that they have to remove most of the devices DW> from the boot floppy to fit the pccard stuff on. So you end DW> up with a really bare boot floppy that may not work for DW> everyone because they had to remove the Seagate SCSI card DW> driver and your FreeBSD disk is hanging off one of those. DW> Second, the PAO floppies are built post-RELEASE by someone DW> outside the FreeBSD developer's team, so when the CD goes to DW> press the new boot floppy hasn't been rolled yet. Putting the DW> last RELEASE's PAO floppy on the current RELEASE CDROM doesn't DW> make sense when you have to do a net install anyway. :( My problem is that I have a laptop without CDROM; I have to install FreeBSD using the pcmcia ethernet card. Alas the PAO floppy doesn't really work. My Megahertz ethernet card is recognized, I can ifconfig it. But when I try to access the network (ping or whatever) nothing appears on the net. The laptop thinks it is sending to the ethernet correctly, but when I look from another computer with tcpdump I see no activity at all. I'm really dissapointed. On my main computer I had to install Linux because of ISDN support. Now I thought that at least on my new laptop I could run FreeBSD, but as it stands now Linux does support my pcmcia ethernet card but FreeBSD does not. I was hoping I could finally have a nice FreeBSD computer again. I really hope I can make PAO work on my laptop. I might want to try to build a kernel from PAO together with -current on my main computer, then try this kernel on my laptop. Does anyone have experience with this? -- Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | for other people to have