Date: 10 Dec 2001 16:43:22 -0800 From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Konstantinos Konstantinidis <kkonstan@duth.gr> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best service on earth! Message-ID: <zuwuzuegd1.uzu@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <3C151E53.E1F48728@duth.gr> References: <20011210123010.A259@tisys.org> <3C14A495.841A203D@duth.gr> <01121013063303.00345@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <20011210173831.A1975@tisys.org> <3C14EE71.91ECF654@duth.gr> <ru7krugaw3.kru@localhost.localdomain> <3C151E53.E1F48728@duth.gr>
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> > Honest (snipped from my dict.) -- Not taking unfair advantage; truthful; > > trustworthy; equitable; fair; having integrity; guileless; open. > > I believe that what I did is honest. If a shop has an item that I want on > display at a price that I like, I hand them over my cash and buy it - it > is called "trade". You believe wrong, for the cases you described where you understood the marked prices to be mistakes. An honest person, being concerned about his integrity, being fair, and interested in equitable dealing, tells the merchant about the suspected error and gives him an opportunity to correct his error so the exchange is equitable. The sale of goods involves a legal contract (in US Law anyway), whether the terms are discussed or written or not, but if the parties don't understand and agree on the terms of the contract (like an agreed-upon price, because of an error in marking the price), then the contract can be held invalid in court. You-all don't care about US Law, but it does show that the basic concept is important enought to have been put into law. Now, like Mike alluded to, commercial law has gotten very complicated and allows and sometimes even requires all sorts of inequities and unfair situations, in the process of trying to correct worse or more common ones. Fortunately, lawyers don't define "honest" for us. > So, what you are saying is that if you see a product at a very low price > at a store, which could be due to an error, the management going bonkers > or merely a big bargain, you are going to beg them to pay more? I didn't say anything like that. I said an honest person whould not take advantage of someone else's mistake. If he expected a mistake, he would bring it to the merchant's attention so a fair deal could be negotiated. Now, if YOU are saying that it's OK to be dishonest in these situations, then I won't argue with you about that in this forum. But to say that it isn't dishonest is to call black white and I felt I had to comment. Another case where you can see this concept embodied in law, is when the bank feeds huge amounts of money into someone's checking account and they take it out in cash, close their account, and don't tell anyone. Such people should be and are sent to prison when found out, depending on the amount of their theft. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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