From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 6 18: 9:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.yore.net (www.yore.net [38.193.45.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071F0150BF for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Received: from bagby1 (nas1-03.yore.net [38.193.45.17]) by www.yore.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01054 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:09:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004701beb082$71045920$112dc126@bagby1> From: "Ray Bagby" To: Subject: RE: Change local mail directory. Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:09:43 -0500 Organization: yore.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01BEB058.841F3180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BEB058.841F3180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, And a very large thank you! to all the folks that replied to my = plea. After much stumbling and bumbling (all my own fault BTW) we = finally have mail going into the users home directory. Next up we'll take a shot at that quota thing. I've got to say, after many years of living by the credo: "If it = ain't broke, don't fix it!", I am actually starting to enjoy the heady = feeling of doing something that could, and very well might, screw up the = entire system just because it might also make things better. ;-) Thanks again! Oh, one other thing, is anybody using cron to send end of the month = messages to users? Just thought I'd ask.... Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BEB058.841F3180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings,

And a very large thank you! to = all the=20 folks that replied to my plea. After much stumbling and bumbling (all my = own=20 fault BTW) we finally have mail going into the users home=20 directory.

Next up we'll take a shot at that = quota=20 thing.

I've got to say, after many years = of living=20 by the credo: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!", I am = actually starting to=20 enjoy the heady feeling of doing something that could, and very well = might,=20 screw up the entire system just because it might also make things = better.=20 ;-)

Thanks again!

Oh, one other thing, is anybody = using cron=20 to send end of the month messages to users? Just thought I'd=20 ask....

Ray Bagby, Tech.=20 Dir.

------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BEB058.841F3180-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 6 18:34:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D7A14DF0 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA40283; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Ray Bagby Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Change local mail directory. In-Reply-To: <004701beb082$71045920$112dc126@bagby1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Ray Bagby wrote: > Greetings, > And a very large thank you! to all the folks that replied to my > plea. After much stumbling and bumbling (all my own fault BTW) we > finally have mail going into the users home directory. > Next up we'll take a shot at that quota thing. > I've got to say, after many years of living by the credo: "If it > ain't broke, don't fix it!", I am actually starting to enjoy the > heady feeling of doing something that could, and very well might, > screw up the entire system just because it might also make things > better. ;-) > Thanks again! > Oh, one other thing, is anybody using cron to send end of the > month messages to users? Just thought I'd ask.... > Please, can you use 80 character lines? Everyone gets real annoyed at your wide lines. anyhow, for that last thing, read man 5 crontab, and use the pattern 0 0 1 * * > Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 0:12:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2915015046 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@invicta.net) Received: from mail (mail.mad-cow.org.uk [195.74.110.26]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA02156 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:12:06 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" To: Subject: RE: Change local mail directory. Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:11:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000201beb0b5$06096240$1a6e4ac3@mail.mad-cow.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Disposition-Notification-To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't get annoyed, I also use a MS windows mail client (and don't mind admitting it). You could also put a script file in /etc/periodic/monthly. (much easier than playing with cron) Or, if you use QPopper, read the man section on bulldir Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: +44 (0)1233 334000 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chuck Robey Sent: 07 June 1999 02:34 To: Ray Bagby Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Change local mail directory. > > ... Please, can you use 80 character lines? Everyone gets real annoyed at your wide lines. anyhow, for that last thing, read man 5 crontab, and use the pattern 0 0 1 * * > Ray Bagby, Tech. Dir. > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 8:19:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7DF15758 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25264 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Full filesystem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We're running a news server that does a "rolling expire", so it is capable of keeping the drives 99% full (31GB) 24/7. We have two 34G ccd arrays, so even bumping down one percent is kind of a waste of space. Since newfs gives a buffer zone for safety (you can fill the fs to 105% or so), I want to keep usage up above the warning zone. So, is there any way, short of newfs-ing the arrays again, to keep the kernel from complaining about the filesystem being "full" when there's really a few gigabytes left? Is there any way to force optimization to "time" instead of "space" at these usage levels? Thanks, Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- "...there's no idea that's so good you can't ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 8:52:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA0415781 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id QAA17887; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:49:23 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id RAA25548; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:46:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25921; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:35:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id RAA04751; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:40:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <375BE949.58C9DA6D@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:46:17 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spork Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Full filesystem References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B4C6117E87D3237A7AEE9CFB" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B4C6117E87D3237A7AEE9CFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit man tunefs TfH spork wrote: > > Hi, > > We're running a news server that does a "rolling expire", so it is capable > of keeping the drives 99% full (31GB) 24/7. We have two 34G ccd arrays, > so even bumping down one percent is kind of a waste of space. Since newfs > gives a buffer zone for safety (you can fill the fs to 105% or so), I want > to keep usage up above the warning zone. > > So, is there any way, short of newfs-ing the arrays again, to keep the > kernel from complaining about the filesystem being "full" when there's > really a few gigabytes left? Is there any way to force optimization to > "time" instead of "space" at these usage levels? > > Thanks, > > Charles > > --- > Charles Sprickman > spork@super-g.com > --- > "...there's no idea that's so good you can't > ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --------------B4C6117E87D3237A7AEE9CFB Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="thierry.herbelot.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Thierry Herbelot Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry.herbelot.vcf" begin:vcard n:Herbelot;Thierry tel;work:(+33) 1 46 52 47 23 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot org:CIT Nanterre adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr x-mozilla-cpt:;-22032 fn:Thierry Herbelot end:vcard --------------B4C6117E87D3237A7AEE9CFB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 8:54:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ccc80102.schwab.com (ccc00102.schwab.com [162.93.253.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2614C02 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.COM) Received: by phxbh/ccc80102.schwab.com v1.000dar for qnum LAA19131 Received-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s0743dev.schwab.com(162.93.239.70) by ccc80102.schwab.com via smap (V4.2) id xma018537; Mon, 7 Jun 99 11:52:43 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by ihop phx id LAA06186; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: ( Schwab Email ) by copymail phx with ESMTP id LAA06143; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by N1102SMX.nt.schwab.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:49:13 -0700 Message-ID: <11585F032846CF11867900805FE2A57706D6169C@N1002SMX.nt.schwab.com> From: "Pleschutznig, Andreas" To: "'spork'" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Full filesystem Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:49:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try 'tunefs' that should take care of your needs. -- Andreas Pleschutznig Sr. Unix System Admin E-mail: Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.com Phone: (415) 636 0493 Cell: (415) 850 7996 Brick: 260 Pager: http://www.nextel.com/paging/indivpage.html Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. > -----Original Message----- > From: spork [mailto:spork@super-g.com] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 8:20 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Full filesystem > > > Hi, > > We're running a news server that does a "rolling expire", so > it is capable > of keeping the drives 99% full (31GB) 24/7. We have two 34G > ccd arrays, > so even bumping down one percent is kind of a waste of space. > Since newfs > gives a buffer zone for safety (you can fill the fs to 105% > or so), I want > to keep usage up above the warning zone. > > So, is there any way, short of newfs-ing the arrays again, to keep the > kernel from complaining about the filesystem being "full" when there's > really a few gigabytes left? Is there any way to force > optimization to > "time" instead of "space" at these usage levels? > > Thanks, > > Charles > > --- > Charles Sprickman > spork@super-g.com > --- > "...there's no idea that's so good you can't > ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 10: 0:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corwin.nall.com (corwin.nall.com [216.30.44.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24C215270 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@nall.com) Received: from nall.com (corwin.nall.com [216.30.44.163]) by corwin.nall.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA01550 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:00:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <375BFAAE.CCC65835@nall.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 12:00:30 -0500 From: Joe Nall Organization: Nall Design Works X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.26 9000/770) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Full filesystem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org spork wrote: > > Hi, > > We're running a news server that does a "rolling expire", so it is capable > of keeping the drives 99% full (31GB) 24/7. We have two 34G ccd arrays, > so even bumping down one percent is kind of a waste of space. Since newfs > gives a buffer zone for safety (you can fill the fs to 105% or so), I want > to keep usage up above the warning zone. I'm not an expert on this filesystem, but on other filesystems that extra 5-10% is used by the filesystem to minimize fragmentation. On HP-UX there is a definite performance impact when this is made too small. Can a filesystem guru clue us in on the right rule of thumb? Is it 10% or is there a particular total size (e.g. 500mb) above which the extra space is wasted? I'm going to do some big raids this summer and 5% of 100+GB starts to add up. Cheers, Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 10: 5:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from home.dragondata.com (home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B909A151C7 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA09057; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:04:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199906071704.MAA09057@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Full filesystem In-Reply-To: <375BFAAE.CCC65835@nall.com> from Joe Nall at "Jun 7, 1999 12: 0:30 pm" To: joe@nall.com (Joe Nall) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > spork wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We're running a news server that does a "rolling expire", so it is capable > > of keeping the drives 99% full (31GB) 24/7. We have two 34G ccd arrays, > > so even bumping down one percent is kind of a waste of space. Since newfs > > gives a buffer zone for safety (you can fill the fs to 105% or so), I want > > to keep usage up above the warning zone. > I'm not an expert on this filesystem, but on other filesystems that > extra 5-10% is used by the filesystem to minimize fragmentation. On > HP-UX there is a definite performance impact when this is made too > small. Can a filesystem guru clue us in on the right rule of thumb? Is > it 10% or is there a particular total size (e.g. 500mb) above which the > extra space is wasted? I'm going to do some big raids this summer and 5% > of 100+GB starts to add up. > To quote 'tunefs' -m minfree This value specifies the percentage of space held back from nor- mal users; the minimum free space threshold. The default value used is 8%. This value can be set to zero, however up to a fac- tor of three in throughput will be lost over the performance ob- tained at a 10% threshold. Settings of 5% and less force space optimization to always be used which will greatly increase the overhead for file writes. Note that if the value is raised above the current usage level, users will be unable to allocate files until enough files have been deleted to get under the higher threshold. So, keep that in mind. :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 11:39: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from clif.pcinternet.net (clif.pcinternet.net [209.203.111.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E381915841 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysop@pcinternet.net) Received: from crap (rivbn02041.pcinternet.net [209.203.111.170]) by clif.pcinternet.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA03173 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:47:44 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990607112108.00a3e550@mail.pcinternet.net> X-Sender: sysop@mail.pcinternet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:31:46 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Joe Bissot Subject: Cistron Radius Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_36276823==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_36276823==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is there any way to make Cistron RADIUS case insensitive when checking the user name? Also can Cistron be tied to a Microsoft SQL server via ODBC? What is the best source for Cistron information? And finally what RADIUS server that runs under FreeBSD do you prefer? and why? I have been running RADIUS using Radius-NT and have had enough. I've moved the backup to Cistron on FreeBSD and will probably move the primary in the next couple of days. Our user database is on a Microsoft SQL server so I would like to have Cistron (or whatever RADIUS server runs well on FreeBSD) query the SQL for user names and passwords instead of running a flat file or making a second database. But if the SQL is unavailable I need it to revert to a flat file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ----------------------------------------- Joe Bissot - sysop@PCInternet.net Phone (909)307-2861 / Pager (909)265-3595 -- Trust the computer industry to shorten Year 2000 to Y2K. It was this thinking that caused the problem in the first place. --=====================_36276823==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

Is there any way to make Cistron RADIUS case insensitive when checking the user name? Also can Cistron be tied to a Microsoft SQL server via ODBC? What is the best source for Cistron information? And finally what RADIUS server that runs under FreeBSD do you prefer? and why?

I have been running RADIUS using Radius-NT and have had enough. I've moved the backup to Cistron on FreeBSD and will probably move the primary in the next couple of days. Our user database is on a Microsoft SQL server so I would like to have Cistron (or whatever RADIUS server runs well on FreeBSD) query the SQL for user names and passwords instead of running a flat file or making a second database. But if the SQL is unavailable I need it to revert to a flat file.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Joe Bissot - sysop@PCInternet.net
Phone (909)307-2861 / Pager (909)265-3595
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Trust the computer industry to shorten Year 2000 to Y2K. It
was this thinking that caused the problem in the first place. --=====================_36276823==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 11:43:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from clif.pcinternet.net (clif.pcinternet.net [209.203.111.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D361532E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jblist@pcinternet.net) Received: from crap (rivbn02041.pcinternet.net [209.203.111.170]) by clif.pcinternet.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA03191 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:52:12 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990607113606.00d122b0@mail.pcinternet.net> X-Sender: jblist@mail.pcinternet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:36:14 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Joe Bissot Subject: Cistron Radius Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there any way to make Cistron RADIUS case insensitive when checking the user name? Also can Cistron be tied to a Microsoft SQL server via ODBC? What is the best source for Cistron information? And finally what RADIUS server that runs under FreeBSD do you prefer? and why? I have been running RADIUS using Radius-NT and have had enough. I've moved the backup to Cistron on FreeBSD and will probably move the primary in the next couple of days. Our user database is on a Microsoft SQL server so I would like to have Cistron (or whatever RADIUS server runs well on FreeBSD) query the SQL for user names and passwords instead of running a flat file or making a second database. But if the SQL is unavailable I need it to revert to a flat file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 15: 3: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corwin.nall.com (corwin.nall.com [216.30.44.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0E614BCF for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@nall.com) Received: from nall.com (corwin.nall.com [216.30.44.163]) by corwin.nall.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA01842 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:02:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <375C4184.3648AA39@nall.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:02:44 -0500 From: Joe Nall Organization: Nall Design Works X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.26 9000/770) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Full filesystem References: <199906071704.MAA09057@home.dragondata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kevin Day wrote: > > > spork wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We're running a news server that does a "rolling expire", so it is capable > > > of keeping the drives 99% full (31GB) 24/7. We have two 34G ccd arrays, > > > so even bumping down one percent is kind of a waste of space. Since newfs > > > gives a buffer zone for safety (you can fill the fs to 105% or so), I want > > > to keep usage up above the warning zone. > > I'm not an expert on this filesystem, but on other filesystems that > > extra 5-10% is used by the filesystem to minimize fragmentation. On > > HP-UX there is a definite performance impact when this is made too > > small. Can a filesystem guru clue us in on the right rule of thumb? Is > > it 10% or is there a particular total size (e.g. 500mb) above which the > > extra space is wasted? I'm going to do some big raids this summer and 5% > > of 100+GB starts to add up. > > > > To quote 'tunefs' > > -m minfree > This value specifies the percentage of space held back from nor- > mal users; the minimum free space threshold. The default value > used is 8%. This value can be set to zero, however up to a fac- > tor of three in throughput will be lost over the performance ob- > tained at a 10% threshold. Settings of 5% and less force space > optimization to always be used which will greatly increase the > overhead for file writes. That is not really what I was looking for. To reword the question: Is there some file system reserve above which the percentage based mechanism just wastes disk space? Is there is a measurable difference in performance between a 50GB file system with a 2.6GB reserve and a 5GB reserve? Does file size distribution impact reserve requirements? Cheers, Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 15: 6:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sss80205.schwab.com (sss00205.schwab.com [162.93.15.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7B114EC2 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:06:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.COM) Received: by othbh/sss80205.schwab.com v1.000dar for qnum SAA06877 Received-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s0001asf.schwab.com(162.93.32.201) by sss80205.schwab.com via smap (V4.2) id xma006823; Mon, 7 Jun 99 18:02:29 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by ihop sf id SAA28743 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: ( Schwab Email ) by copymail sf with ESMTP id SAA28737 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by N1102SMX.nt.schwab.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:02:46 -0700 Message-ID: <11585F032846CF11867900805FE2A57706D616A9@N1002SMX.nt.schwab.com> From: "Pleschutznig, Andreas" To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Looking for suggestions Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:02:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody, I'm currently looking for suggestions on a mail to web interface. Any suggestions, hints? Thanks -- Andreas Pleschutznig Sr. Unix System Admin E-mail: Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 15:12:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mensa.national.com.au (mensa.national.com.au [203.57.240.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B728314C9C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nconedd@mensa.national.com.au) Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by mensa.national.com.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id IAA22949; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:12:18 +1000 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <199906072212.IAA22949@mensa.national.com.au> Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions To: Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.COM (Pleschutznig, Andreas) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:12:18 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <11585F032846CF11867900805FE2A57706D616A9@N1002SMX.nt.schwab.com> from "Pleschutznig, Andreas" at Jun 7, 99 03:02:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0a3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | I'm currently looking for suggestions on a mail to web interface. | | Any suggestions, hints? In the past I've used mhonarc (or something similar). Worked well and seemed reasonably fast. Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 15:19:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dexter.lcsd2.org (unknown [209.181.17.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FF115824 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tstevenson@lcsd2.org) Received: from lcsd2.org ([137.90.159.11]) by dexter.lcsd2.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA26227 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:18:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tstevenson@lcsd2.org) Message-ID: <375C4517.40E94ADB@lcsd2.org> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:18:00 +0000 From: Travis Stevenson Organization: Lincoln County School District #2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions References: <11585F032846CF11867900805FE2A57706D616A9@N1002SMX.nt.schwab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, one that I am going to implement is Mailspinner http://www.mailspinner.com although this runs on Solaris so it might not be suited well for you. There is one for Linux, It is Coconut webmail pro. It does look pretty cheesy though. You might be able to customize the appearance to make it look better. http://www.coconut.co.uk Travis Stevenson Lincoln County School District #2 tstevenson@lcsd2.org " "Pleschutznig, Andreas" wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm currently looking for suggestions on a mail to web interface. > > Any suggestions, hints? > > Thanks > > -- > Andreas Pleschutznig > Sr. Unix System Admin > E-mail: Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- static char BSD[] = "*BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how"; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 15:26:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E97D14CE5 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA138379145; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:12:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:12:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Travis Stevenson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions In-Reply-To: <375C4517.40E94ADB@lcsd2.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or use something that works with FreeBSD, because php isn't platform dependent. http://horde.org/imp http://www.focalmail.com/home/index.html I've never used these, but they are available. On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Travis Stevenson wrote: > Well, one that I am going to implement is Mailspinner > http://www.mailspinner.com although this runs on Solaris so > it might not be suited well for you. There is one for Linux, It is > Coconut webmail pro. It does look pretty cheesy though. You might be > able to customize the appearance to make it look better. > http://www.coconut.co.uk > > "Pleschutznig, Andreas" wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I'm currently looking for suggestions on a mail to web interface. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 17:56:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shift-f1.com (unknown [208.152.204.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEFB14CAA; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@shift-f1.com) Received: (from shashi) by shift-f1.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA12717; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:50:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990607205025.A12685@WEBSI.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:50:25 -0400 From: Shashi Joshi To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Ideal Server configuration?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, I am planning to buy a new system for web server. I wonder if anyone has come up with what a medium duty web server/mail server with dynamic page generation (cgi scripts) whould have. Here is my initial start: Pentium II 450 MHz 256MB 4 SCSI 9.1GB each I intend to be under $1500 without the price of hard disks, if possible. What are the other factor in hardware that should be taken in account for a web server? e.g. compare along the following lines: 1. PII 450 vs PIII 450 PIII 450 vs PIII 500 2. 256MB vs 512MB 3. L2 cache of 512K vs 2MB 4. 2 18GB SCSI disks vs 4 9.1GB SCSI disks 5. SCSI motherboard vs. separate SCSI adapter? I am trying to see the performance gain in each option, how much important each is. e.g. increasing the memory is always better than increasing the CPU speed, when it is already 450MHz (which is good enough). How much load can the following systems take in terms of email server AND web server. The email will only for the clients of web hosting. PII 450 256MB SCSI adapter (non-SCSI motherboard) PII 450 256MB SCSI mother board PII 450 512MB SCSI mother board PIII 450 512MB SCSI mother board Thanks in advance, -- Shashi Joshi _____________________________________________________________________ __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... _____________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 7 18:17:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE014E10; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@portal.net.au) Received: (from matt@localhost) by portal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19051; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:46:08 +0930 (CST) From: Matt Baker Message-Id: <199906080116.KAA19051@portal.net.au> Subject: Re: Ideal Server configuration?? To: shashi@Shift-F1.com (Shashi Joshi) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:46:08 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990607205025.A12685@WEBSI.com> from "Shashi Joshi" at Jun 7, 99 08:50:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi guys, Howdy, > I am planning to buy a new system for web server. I wonder if anyone has > come up with what a medium duty web server/mail server with dynamic page > generation (cgi scripts) whould have. Here is my initial start: How many users are you planning on handling on the mail server? How many of these would be connected at the same time? > Pentium II 450 MHz > 256MB > 4 SCSI 9.1GB each > > I intend to be under $1500 without the price of hard disks, if possible. > > What are the other factor in hardware that should be taken in account for a > web server? > e.g. compare along the following lines: > 1. PII 450 vs PIII 450 > PIII 450 vs PIII 500 certainly here, the price difference between PII/450's and PIII/450's is very minimal. I'ld be using a PIII/450 or 500 > 2. 256MB vs 512MB > 3. L2 cache of 512K vs 2MB this realy depends on the number of users. Personally I've found having more ram rather tahn more L2 cache is of benefit (if you can't have both) > 4. 2 18GB SCSI disks vs 4 9.1GB SCSI disks providing that you can cool them 4x9.1GB 7200rpm drives work well > 5. SCSI motherboard vs. separate SCSI adapter? I've been using Asus P2B-S with onboard Adaptec controllers and found they work well. I've not found any difference with having the SCSI controller off-board (Adaptec 2940UW) so you might as well save the $$ > I am trying to see the performance gain in each option, how much important > each is. e.g. increasing the memory is always better than increasing the > CPU speed, when it is already 450MHz (which is good enough). Exactly. You'll find that a PIII/450 will probably be more CPU than you'll need at the moment. By the sounds of your application it's ram that you'll find yourself running out of first. what are your cgi's written in? Matt. -- matt baker email: matt@sevenone.com Unix & Network Consultant Adelaide, South Australia SevenOne Pty Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 1: 0:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB38714EE1 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@invicta.net) Received: from mail (mail.mad-cow.org.uk [195.74.110.26]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA09007 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:59:51 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" To: "Freebsd-ISP (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Looking for suggestions Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:59:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000101beb184$dba55ec0$0137a8c0@mail.mad-cow.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <11585F032846CF11867900805FE2A57706D616A9@N1002SMX.nt.schwab.com> Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://netwinsite.com/index.html Knocks spots of anythng else I have seen. Martyn ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: +44 (0)1233 334000 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Pleschutznig, Andreas Sent: 07 June 1999 23:03 To: 'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org' Subject: Looking for suggestions Hi everybody, I'm currently looking for suggestions on a mail to web interface. Any suggestions, hints? Thanks -- Andreas Pleschutznig Sr. Unix System Admin E-mail: Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 3:45:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (web113.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4075314C23 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:44:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990608104517.4721.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.62.90] by web113.yahoomail.com; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:45:17 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I run a moderatly sized ISP and as an FTP daemon we use NcFTPD (www.ncftpd.com). I really have no use for any of its features, plus i'm sure most of these features are included with using the normal ftpd from inetd. A few things I need to know first, is were can I get more information about this? Configuration wise.. theres a lot of stuff i'd like to change, (pre-login message, hostname it says, etc..) Secondly, lately i read some stuff about security in this ftpd? Running the normal ftpd that comes with freebsd is probably the safest way to go am I correct? Thanks, Holt _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 8:10:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC81B14FFE; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA27798; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906081509.IAA27798@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: matt@portal.net.au, shashi@Shift-F1.com Subject: Re: Ideal Server configuration?? Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } How many users are you planning on handling on the mail server? How many of } these would be connected at the same time? } } > Pentium II 450 MHz } > 256MB } > 4 SCSI 9.1GB each } > } > I intend to be under $1500 without the price of hard disks, if possible. } > } > What are the other factor in hardware that should be taken in account for a } > web server? } > e.g. compare along the following lines: } > 1. PII 450 vs PIII 450 } > PIII 450 vs PIII 500 } } certainly here, the price difference between PII/450's and PIII/450's } is very minimal. I'ld be using a PIII/450 or 500 PIII 450 vs PIII 500 is just price and CPU power. The bus is the same. If you have a cold room, use PIII 450 running on 110MHz bus clock, you will get better I/O then PIII-500 and have then same CPU power. We have tested this overclocking on our server for a month w/o any problem. } > 2. 256MB vs 512MB } > 3. L2 cache of 512K vs 2MB } } this realy depends on the number of users. Personally I've found having } more ram rather tahn more L2 cache is of benefit (if you can't have both) It also depends on I/O or computation load. For I/O based server, cache is no issue. For math app. oriented server, you need larger cache. } > 4. 2 18GB SCSI disks vs 4 9.1GB SCSI disks } } providing that you can cool them 4x9.1GB 7200rpm drives work well } } > 5. SCSI motherboard vs. separate SCSI adapter? Modern larger SCSI disk (bigger than 8GB) all work well. } I've been using Asus P2B-S with onboard Adaptec controllers and found they } work well. I've not found any difference with having the SCSI controller } off-board (Adaptec 2940UW) so you might as well save the $$ If you want two SCSI controllers, you may choose the Symbios Logic based SCSI, such as ASUS SC-875. The performance is same as Adaptec, but much lower price. } > I am trying to see the performance gain in each option, how much important } > each is. e.g. increasing the memory is always better than increasing the } > CPU speed, when it is already 450MHz (which is good enough). This implies that you have a server with more I/O loads. P-III-450 should be better choice. You must be wonder why not overclock 500 P-III on 110 bus. This is chip manufactory technical issue. It is hard to explain in a line. -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 11:52:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (www.gordon.md [209.26.120.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C55614E8B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from uyrgfcgg by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA10071; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:54:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:42:22 -0500 From: "WholesaleHosting.com" To: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Initial Install Message-Id: <36965F9E1CC.E74DADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've installed freebsd 3.1 on two other machines with virtually no problems. I don't really understand yet how much works.. Upon installing it on my last computer, an IBM Aptiva, I find myself unable to even get thru the install. I boot from .flp disks and config kernal to resolve conflicts, then install.. then ports.. then reboot... I never get past the reboot because it freezes up while scroling the stuff it scrolls when you boot. The last thing i see is plip0: on ppbus 0 and.. freeze... I have to reboot with the /flp disc's and re install... only to have to start all over 45 minutes later for the same reasons. Mhouser Sorry of this was the wrong domo to mail to - its the only one I could remember. Mhouser mhouser@wholesalehosting.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 13:52:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A1114EBC for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielb@almazs.pacex.net) Received: from localhost (danielb@localhost) by almazs.pacex.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA23478 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:52:16 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel B To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Finding what user's previous password was. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi fellow ISPs; I need to find out what a user's previous password (the one before the current user's password) was because I have a customer who had problem loging to our system because of incorrect password and the customer inssists that he did not forget his password. For now I have reset his password (by taking a laptop to his office and loging to server through ssh and let him punch his new password so only he knows it). However I need to convince (and restore his confidence on our operations) this customer that he realy did lose his password. Where in the FreeBSD system files can I find clues as to what his previous password was? I know a FreeBSD system keeps track of all activities and has answers to almost everything, well hope somebody has run in to this problem before I did and has clue for me. Thanks Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 14:29:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38A4714BE3 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 5826 invoked from network); 8 Jun 1999 22:07:48 -0000 Received: from file.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 1999 22:07:48 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990608141226.00b58140@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:21:46 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: CGI for protected pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm trying to find the best solution for a user of ours. The company wants to make certain pages viewable only by their sales offices. They want each user to have a separate login/password and we as the ISP want to be removed from this. Is there a good CGI to allow the user to manage his own htpasswd files? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 14:30: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f49.hotmail.com [216.32.181.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 137D914C03 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjcameron@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 36453 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 1999 21:29:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990608212958.36452.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 147.160.99.35 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:29:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [147.160.99.35] From: Frank Cameron To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: danielb@pacex.net Subject: RE: Finding what user's previous password was. Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:29:58 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Get the password database from a backup? Frank _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 14:47:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com [24.5.122.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC015879 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Received: from localhost (tbackman@localhost) by c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA02031; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:53:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Backman To: daniel B Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Finding what user's previous password was. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It is gone. On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, daniel B wrote: > > Hi fellow ISPs; > > I need to find out what a user's previous password (the one before the > current user's password) was because I have a customer who had problem > loging to our system because of incorrect password and the customer > inssists that he did not forget his password. For now I have reset his > password (by taking a laptop to his office and loging to server through > ssh and let him punch his new password so only he knows it). > However I need to convince (and restore his confidence on our operations) > this customer that he realy did lose his password. > Where in the FreeBSD system files can I find clues as to what his > previous password was? I know a FreeBSD system keeps track of > all activities and has answers to almost everything, well hope somebody > has run in to this problem before I did and has clue for me. > > Thanks > > Dan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ========================================================================= Todd Backman "there are two major products that came out of berkley: Geek and FreeBSD user lsd and unix. Seattle, WA we don't believe this to be "Chaos is a good teacher..." a coincidence." j.s.anderson ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 8 20:58:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7724A14C47; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@vpop.net) Received: from localhost.vpop.net (ring.vpop.net [206.117.147.5]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA07004; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:58:29 -0700 (PDT) From: joe@vpop.net (Joe McDonald) To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 20:52:33 -0700 Organization: VPOP Technologies Inc. Message-ID: <3794e48c.386351281@127.0.0.1> References: <19990608104517.4721.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> In-Reply-To: <19990608104517.4721.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Take a look at ProFTP http://www.proftpd.org/ . It has served us well. regards, -joe On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:45:17 -0700 (PDT), Holtor wrote: > Secondly, lately i read some stuff about security > in this ftpd? Running the normal ftpd that comes > with freebsd is probably the safest way to go am I > correct? --=20 NewsHub: http://www.NewsHub.com/tech/ | MultiTrace: http://www.MultiTrace.com/ | Explore Your Net! DomainSurfer: http://www.DomainSurfer.com/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 4:17:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1C215421; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:17:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) id MAA33893; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:16:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:16:59 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Joe McDonald Cc: Holtor , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's FTP Daemon Message-ID: <19990609121658.G79865@pavilion.net> References: <19990608104517.4721.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> <3794e48c.386351281@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3794e48c.386351281@127.0.0.1>; from Joe McDonald on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 08:52:33PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 08:52:33PM -0700, Joe McDonald wrote: > > Take a look at ProFTP http://www.proftpd.org/ . It has served us well. > > regards, > -joe Or ncftpd (www.ncftpd.com). We use this one and it's great. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 8:16:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rerun.lucentctc.com (rerun.lucentctc.com [199.93.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896B81507E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:16:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcambria@lucent.com) Received: by rerun.lucentctc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:16:53 -0400 Message-ID: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF5630B5@rerun.lucentctc.com> From: "Cambria, Mike" To: "'isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Unregistered domain name for LAN? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:16:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Do any cheat sheets, HOW-TO's, tutorials etc. exist on setting up _unregistered_ domain name for a FreeBSD based network? I access the Internet via my cable modem connected to FreeBSD 3.1 using DHCP client. This system runs ipfw & natd to allow other systems on the LAN as well as dial-in pppd to get to the network. My network uses unregistered IP addresses internally. I want to be able to start using names internally as well. I do not want to register a domain name. (I've considered it but 1) I don't believe my cable monopoly will let me do this, 2) Regardless, I don't want to wait until the registration completes to start setting this up.) Setting up a primary DNS server for my domain (referring all other domains to the ISP name server) seems straight forward. However, I'm sure there are things I need to watch out for, consider etc. that I am not aware of. Thanks, MikeC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 9:31:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737C815568 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA77167; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:30:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <007101beb295$81d14780$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Cambria, Mike" , "'isp@freebsd.org'" References: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF5630B5@rerun.lucentctc.com> Subject: Sv: Unregistered domain name for LAN? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:26:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- Fra: Cambria, Mike Til: 'isp@freebsd.org' Sendt: 9. juni 1999 17:16 Emne: Unregistered domain name for LAN? > > Hi, > > Do any cheat sheets, HOW-TO's, tutorials etc. exist on setting up > _unregistered_ domain name for a FreeBSD based network? > > I access the Internet via my cable modem connected to FreeBSD 3.1 using DHCP > client. This system runs ipfw & natd to allow other systems on the LAN as > well as dial-in pppd to get to the network. My network uses unregistered IP > addresses internally. > > I want to be able to start using names internally as well. I do not want to > register a domain name. (I've considered it but 1) I don't believe my cable > monopoly will let me do this, 2) Regardless, I don't want to wait until the > registration completes to start setting this up.) > > Setting up a primary DNS server for my domain (referring all other domains > to the ISP name server) seems straight forward. However, I'm sure there are > things I need to watch out for, consider etc. that I am not aware of. As far as I am aware of you don't need to care if your internal domain is registered or not; even if it were registered, the adresses inside is of no use to the outside. So just put up your internal nameserver as usual... Just remember to masquerade your mail, so your adresses are deliverable. Even if you get a registered domain, what the outside need to know is not the same as what the inside need to know, so you need two nameservers, one (actually two) for the outside, and one for the inside. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 10:44: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CF214EA6 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06939 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:43:58 -0400 Message-ID: <19990609134358.J26725@intrepid.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:43:58 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Forking Problem w/ Perl, FBSD 3.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a server running FBSD 3.1, and I have a cron job that -- in addition to some other things -- creates directories if necessary and chown's them. A snippet of the code: if (!(-d $dir)) { print "Creating $dir\n"; mkdir "$dir",0777; system("/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake $dir/Maildir"); system("chown -R vpopmail.vchkpw $dir"); } In other words, if the directory does not exist, it forks a system call to create it (and some sub-directories) and then forks a system call to chown it. The problem is that sometimes the chmod works, and sometimes it doesn't. As near as I can figure it, the system fork is sometimes returning before the directories are created, and when that happens the chmod fails because it's attempting to access files that have not been "written to disk" yet. I've added a sync: system("(/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake $dir/Maildir; sync)"); and that seems to help, but the following chmod still fails some time. Anyone seen anything like this before? TIA. --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 11:17:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corwin.nall.com (corwin.nall.com [216.30.44.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C68F151B0 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:17:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@nall.com) Received: from nall.com (corwin.nall.com [216.30.44.163]) by corwin.nall.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA05235; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <375EAFBD.62EC48F@nall.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:17:33 -0500 From: Joe Nall Organization: Nall Design Works X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.26 9000/770) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Forking Problem w/ Perl, FBSD 3.1 References: <19990609134358.J26725@intrepid.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > I have a server running FBSD 3.1, and I have a cron job that -- in > addition to some other things -- creates directories if necessary and > chown's them. A snippet of the code: > > if (!(-d $dir)) { > print "Creating $dir\n"; > mkdir "$dir",0777; > system("/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake $dir/Maildir"); > system("chown -R vpopmail.vchkpw $dir"); > > } > > In other words, if the directory does not exist, it forks a system > call to create it (and some sub-directories) and then forks a system > call to chown it. > > The problem is that sometimes the chmod works, and sometimes it > doesn't. As near as I can figure it, the system fork is sometimes > returning before the directories are created, and when that happens > the chmod fails because it's attempting to access files that have not > been "written to disk" yet. I've added a sync: > > system("(/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake $dir/Maildir; sync)"); > > and that seems to help, but the following chmod still fails some time. There is no chmod in your code snippet. Do you mean the chown? Are you sure the script doesn't launch anything asynchronous? Check the status returns on all of the calls. Is the filesystem NFS mounted? I have seen behavior like this on broken (non FreeBSD) NFS implementations, but not lately. -- Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 11:59:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297A214BDB for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21252; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:59:37 -0400 Message-ID: <19990609145937.L26725@intrepid.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:59:37 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Joe Nall Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Forking Problem w/ Perl, FBSD 3.1 References: <19990609134358.J26725@intrepid.net> <375EAFBD.62EC48F@nall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <375EAFBD.62EC48F@nall.com>; from Joe Nall on Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 01:17:33PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 01:17:33PM -0500, Joe Nall wrote: > > if (!(-d $dir)) { > > print "Creating $dir\n"; > > mkdir "$dir",0777; > > system("/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake $dir/Maildir"); > > system("chown -R vpopmail.vchkpw $dir"); > > > > } > > > There is no chmod in your code snippet. Do you mean the chown? > Are you sure the script doesn't launch anything asynchronous? > Check the status returns on all of the calls. > Is the filesystem NFS mounted? Correct -- I mean to say chown, not chmod ;-) The script itself doesn't launch anything asynchronous, and the code that it's calling -- maildirmake -- is just a series of mkdir(2)'s and chdir(2)'s. The file system is local -- it's A DPT SmartRAID IV.. --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 13:17:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freja.webgiro.com (freja.webgiro.com [212.209.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF22914D82 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BCD1B18E5; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:18:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B3B49CF; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:18:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:18:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Todd Backman Cc: daniel B , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Finding what user's previous password was. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Todd Backman wrote: > > It is gone. ..or it's still in /var/backups/master.passwd.bak Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 13:43:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308A215165 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:43:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA14896 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:43:40 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:43:40 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: PAM & pppd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Why I can solve this problem: pppd[304]: no modules loaded for `ppp' service pppd[304]: PAP login failure for ... I've compiled pppd with -DUSE_PAM, and I've added in pam.conf this: ppp auth required pam_radius.so try_first_pass What is wrong? What does mean "no modules"? Are there anyone using PAM with pppd? Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. ps.: I'm using radius athentication for login and it's work fine with this line (in pam.conf): login auth required pam_radius.so try_first_pass ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 18: 1:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from raven.gdr.dhis.org (tm37.hypermax.net.au [203.46.36.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92428155B3 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phil@gdr.dhis.org) Received: (from right@localhost) by raven.gdr.dhis.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00947; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:04:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from phil@gdr.dhis.org) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:04:28 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199906100104.LAA00947@raven.gdr.dhis.org> X-Authentication-Warning: raven.gdr.dhis.org: right set sender to phil@gdr.dhis.org using -f From: phil grainger To: , Reply-To: phil grainger References: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF5630B5@rerun.lucentctc.com> In-Reply-To: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF5630B5@rerun.lucentctc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.5 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.101.2 Subject: Re: Unregistered domain name for LAN? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mike, checkout dhis.org... allows you to use your freebsd machine a little better phil Quoting \"Cambria, Mike\" : > > Hi, > > Do any cheat sheets, HOW-TO\'s, tutorials etc. exist on setting up > _unregistered_ domain name for a FreeBSD based network? > > I access the Internet via my cable modem connected to FreeBSD 3.1 using > DHCP > client. This system runs ipfw & natd to allow other systems on the LAN as > well as dial-in pppd to get to the network. My network uses unregistered > IP > addresses internally. > > I want to be able to start using names internally as well. I do not want > to > register a domain name. (I\'ve considered it but 1) I don\'t believe my > cable > monopoly will let me do this, 2) Regardless, I don\'t want to wait until the > registration completes to start setting this up.) > > Setting up a primary DNS server for my domain (referring all other domains > to the ISP name server) seems straight forward. However, I\'m sure there > are > things I need to watch out for, consider etc. that I am not aware of. > > Thanks, > MikeC > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with \"unsubscribe freebsd-isp\" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 9 18:27:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF06B14D9E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA13309 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA83399 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199906092223.SAA83399@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Finding what user's previous password was. In-Reply-To: from Andrzej Bialecki at "Jun 9, 1999 10:18: 3 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:22:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrzej Bialecki recently said: > On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Todd Backman wrote: > > > It is gone. > > ..or it's still in /var/backups/master.passwd.bak However it's encoded. To prove the the user that it had not changed you'd neet to take the password the user thinks he had an encrypt it with the same salt - otherwise you have one chance of 4096 of them matching. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 3:29:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A43F14F9B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@invicta.net) Received: from mail (mail.mad-cow.org.uk [195.74.110.26]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22882 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:29:36 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" To: "Freebsd-ISP (E-mail)" Subject: Wierd sendmail message Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:29:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000001beb32c$185f8a40$1a6e4ac3@mail.mad-cow.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01BEB334.7A2B9360" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BEB334.7A2B9360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I know this isn't a FreeBSD question, but can anyone tell me what this means? 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BEB334.7A2B9360-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 4:29:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from myframe.wplus.net (myframe.wplus.net [194.8.160.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E312914FDB for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ptitz@myframe.wplus.net) Received: (from ptitz@localhost) by myframe.wplus.net (8.9.0/8.8.8) id PAA00511; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:26:58 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Mishin Message-Id: <199906101126.PAA00511@myframe.wplus.net> Subject: Re: Wierd sendmail message To: support@invicta.net Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:26:57 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000001beb32c$185f8a40$1a6e4ac3@mail.mad-cow.org.uk> from "InvictaNet Customer Support" at "Jun 10, 99 11:29:13 am" Organization: WEBPlus Ltd. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi > I know this isn't a FreeBSD question, but can anyone tell me what this > means? > > Jun 10 11:25:22 colossus sendmail[22789]: LAA22789: lost input channel from > warp8-214.enta-net.co.uk [195.74.116.215] > Martyn Remote host close connection during exchange. No errors, no timeouts - just close. You could grep LAA22789 /var/log/maillog, to find more about this exchange. -- D.Mishin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 5:44:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0415414CA1 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 05:44:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (stuart@elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA66961; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:44:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <375FB347.678E2667@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:44:55 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Vermillion Cc: FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: Finding what user's previous password was. References: <199906092223.SAA83399@bilver.magicnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > ..or it's still in /var/backups/master.passwd.bak > > However it's encoded. To prove the the user that it had > not changed you'd neet to take the password the user thinks he > had an encrypt it with the same salt - otherwise you have one > chance of 4096 of them matching. Unless you copy and paste it to the master.passwd file and get him to try logging in with it :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 7: 8: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1FD150A1 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA14701 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA90294 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:49:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199906101349.JAA90294@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Finding what user's previous password was. In-Reply-To: <375FB347.678E2667@eclipse.net.uk> from Stuart Henderson at "Jun 10, 1999 1:44:55 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:49:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson recently said: > > > ..or it's still in /var/backups/master.passwd.bak > > However it's encoded. To prove the the user that it had > > not changed you'd neet to take the password the user thinks he > > had an encrypt it with the same salt - otherwise you have one > > chance of 4096 of them matching. > Unless you copy and paste it to the master.passwd file and > get him to try logging in with it :) Unless your master password backup file is older than the date on which the person experienced the problems, you can't guarantee that was the password. If you save the information that the daily reports generate you will have a record when the account was created and when passwords, (or anything else in that users file) was changed. Bill -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 9:12: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satin.sensation.net.au (ethernet2-satin.Melbourne.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4856153AC for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by satin.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA24767 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:11:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA18272 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:11:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:11:41 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: load balancing by rapidly changing routes - mpath? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, A while ago I asked about lower level load balancing between multiple routers plus bandwidth management, and someone mentioned mpath and dummynet. At the time I believe I did a web search for mpath and came up with exactly what I needed. This time around I'm not so lucky, I haven't been able to find *anything* called mpath that has anything to do with FreeBSD or load balancing... mpath is basically a kernel hack that allows multiple gateways to be specified in a "route add" style command. Does anyone have the URL handy or perhaps documentation from a dist which shows the author's email address or other contact details? Thanks. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 11: 5:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFB014CC3 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (stuart@elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA80450; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:05:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <375FFE9A.4A192AEB@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:06:18 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: load balancing by rapidly changing routes - mpath? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At the time I believe I did a web search for mpath and came up > with exactly what I needed. dejanews? :) > Does anyone have the URL handy or perhaps documentation from > a dist which shows the author's email address or other contact > details? Yep sure, it's by Chrisy Luke - try this URL: ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/unix/hacks/FreeBSD/mpath/mpath.b4.tgz Stuart -- Stuart Henderson Eclipse Networking Ltd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 12:49:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD02214E6A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18031; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: <19990610154855.K26725@intrepid.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:48:55 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Joe Nall Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Forking Problem w/ Perl, FBSD 3.1 References: <19990609134358.J26725@intrepid.net> <375EAFBD.62EC48F@nall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <375EAFBD.62EC48F@nall.com>; from Joe Nall on Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 01:17:33PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 01:17:33PM -0500, Joe Nall wrote: > > There is no chmod in your code snippet. Do you mean the chown? > Are you sure the script doesn't launch anything asynchronous? > Check the status returns on all of the calls. > Is the filesystem NFS mounted? > > I have seen behavior like this on broken (non FreeBSD) NFS > implementations, but not lately. Haven't really found anything, but I've noticed that the code that the first system() call calls exits with a _exit(0); not an exit(0); from looking at _exit(2) and exit(3) man pages, don't know if that would cause the code to exit before the file descriptors are closed, but I've changed it to an exit just to see... --mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 22: 1:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from uumail-relay-blr.ernet.in (uumail-relay-blr.ernet.in [202.141.1.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BBA14F0A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dinesh@bandman.nm.ece.iisc.ernet.in) Received: from iisc.ernet.in (iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.3]) by uumail-relay-blr.ernet.in (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA14310 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:31:16 +0530 Received: from ece.iisc.ernet.in by iisc.ernet.in (ERNET-IISc/SMI-4.1) id KAA18531; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:30:44 +0530 (GMT+0530) Received: from lists.ece.iisc.ernet.in (cam.nm.ece.iisc.ernet.in) by ece.iisc.ernet.in (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06135; Fri, 11 Jun 99 10:31:17+0530 Received: (from dinesh@localhost) by lists.ece.iisc.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA25137; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:16:08 +0530 Message-Id: <19990611101608.A25089@nm.ece.iisc.ernet.in> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:16:08 +0530 From: CNL FreeBSD ISP List To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Anything more to de0: link down/autosense failed errors? Reply-To: freebsd-isp@bandman.nm.ece.iisc.ernet.in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! I remotely administer a FreeBSD Computer. I do occasionally encounter these errors via the daily messages sent to root: > de0: link down: cable problem? > de0: autosense failed: cable problem? Is there anything more to this than: 1. Someone pulled out the ethernet cable and put it back? 2. Or the ethernet card is possibly loosely held on the computer. I would like to rule out other possibilities before visiting the remote site. Thanks. Dinesh -- CNL FreeBSD ISP List To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 10 22:10: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inc.net (mailhost.inc.net [204.95.160.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377EE14D94 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@inc.net) Received: from inc.net (ess.phreak.net [207.250.97.69]) by inc.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08972; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:09:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37609C22.FDEE99E1@inc.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:18:26 -0500 From: Steve Kaczkowski Organization: inc.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW,ja,de,af MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@bandman.nm.ece.iisc.ernet.in Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anything more to de0: link down/autosense failed errors? References: <19990611101608.A25089@nm.ece.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org CNL FreeBSD ISP List wrote: > > Greetings! > > I remotely administer a FreeBSD Computer. > > I do occasionally encounter these errors via the daily > messages sent to root: > > > de0: link down: cable problem? > > de0: autosense failed: cable problem? > > Is there anything more to this than: > 1. Someone pulled out the ethernet cable and put it back? > 2. Or the ethernet card is possibly loosely held on the > computer. > > I would like to rule out other possibilities before > visiting the remote site. > If it's a 10/100 card I'd say it's switching between 10 and 100mpbs for some reason. Could be a slight incompatibility issue between the NIC and your Hub (Switch). Regards, -- Steve Kaczkowski Time Warner Telecom/inc.Net steve@inc.net (414)908-9012 http://www.inc.net (603)737-9209 Fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 11 5:25: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9461314F32 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:24:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA24327; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:24:31 -0300 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:24:31 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: CNL FreeBSD ISP List Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anything more to de0: link down/autosense failed errors? In-Reply-To: <19990611101608.A25089@nm.ece.iisc.ernet.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, CNL FreeBSD ISP List wrote: > Greetings! > > I remotely administer a FreeBSD Computer. > > I do occasionally encounter these errors via the daily > messages sent to root: > > > de0: link down: cable problem? > > de0: autosense failed: cable problem? Escuse-me for my english mistakes :-) But I've had many problems with network adapter using DEC DC21x4x chip. The main problem hapenned whenI used two adapter in same computer (my most importantly router). I had many mesages about "abnormal interrupt". Afeter few months, I discouvered my upload was very slow. This error hapenned a lot when someone was downloading something from my site, using fast connection. In this computer I have one Etinc sync adapter and the problem was solved after changed two DEC Network to NE2000 pci compatible. Now if I have some computer with problem, frist of all I look for DEC Network adapter in this machine. Looking for goods Network adapter in some mailing list I've using Intel Express (fxp 10/100) and D-Link DFE530-TX (vr - VIA Technologie 10/100). Until now I not found anything wrong with those adpters. Paulo Fragoso. > > Is there anything more to this than: > 1. Someone pulled out the ethernet cable and put it back? > 2. Or the ethernet card is possibly loosely held on the > computer. > > I would like to rule out other possibilities before > visiting the remote site. > > Thanks. > > Dinesh > -- > CNL FreeBSD ISP List > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 11 8:57:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3806C14F8C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@vpop.net) Received: from localhost.vpop.net (ring.vpop.net [206.117.147.5]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA05139; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:57:41 -0700 (PDT) From: joe@vpop.net (Joe McDonald) To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: redunancy without RAID Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:57:40 -0700 Organization: VPOP Technologies Inc. Message-ID: <37683170.81567132@127.0.0.1> References: <37562454.718D3319@tcworks.net> In-Reply-To: <37562454.718D3319@tcworks.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you know the best way to test if the mirror really works if a drive = goes bad? Pull the power to the drive as it's running? Pull the scsi cable = to the drive as it's running? Will this cause physical damage to the drive? Thanks, -joe On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 01:44:36 -0500, Chris Cook wrote: > We have been running VINUM here at our ISP for quite some time >now. It works great... we have our /usr and /var partitions setup on 2 >different mirrored volumes. The overhead is low and access times are >great. With VINUM, if one of the mirrored disks go out, the volume = should >not crash . As far as ccd goes, I have never used it, but I = believe >both ccd and VINUM will not mirror a boot partition (I know VINUM won't >yet). The VINUM was difficult to install, only because I was trying to = use >the port that comes with FBSD 3.1. If you go this route, I suggest >downloading the lastest version and you shouldn't have problems. Hope = this >helps... --=20 NewsHub: http://www.NewsHub.com/tech/ | MultiTrace: http://www.MultiTrace.com/ | Explore Your Net! DomainSurfer: http://www.DomainSurfer.com/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 11 9:39:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sss80205.schwab.com (sss00205.schwab.com [162.93.15.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C83154B7 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:39:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.COM) Received: by othbh/sss80205.schwab.com v1.000dar for qnum MAA13610 Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s0001asf.schwab.com(162.93.32.201) by sss80205.schwab.com via smap (V4.2) id xma013066; Fri, 11 Jun 99 12:35:04 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by ihop sf id MAA18577; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: ( Schwab Email ) by copymail sf with ESMTP id MAA18523; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by n2101pmx.cdc.schwab.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:34:00 -0400 Message-ID: <11585F032846CF11867900805FE2A57706D616DD@N1002SMX.nt.schwab.com> From: "Pleschutznig, Andreas" To: "'joe@vpop.net'" , Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: redunancy without RAID Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:21:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pull the power from the drive. That way the drive stops working without hurting the bus. You are perfectly save, your drive will not have any damages(other than logical) from that procedure. Andy -- Andreas Pleschutznig Sr. Unix System Admin E-mail: Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.com Phone: (415) 636 0493 Cell: (415) 850 7996 Brick: 260 Pager: http://www.nextel.com/paging/indivpage.html Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. > -----Original Message----- > From: joe@vpop.net [mailto:joe@vpop.net] > Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 8:58 AM > To: Chris Cook > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: redunancy without RAID > > > > Do you know the best way to test if the mirror really works > if a drive goes > bad? Pull the power to the drive as it's running? Pull the > scsi cable to the > drive as it's running? Will this cause physical damage to the drive? > > Thanks, > -joe > > On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 01:44:36 -0500, Chris Cook > wrote: > > > We have been running VINUM here at our ISP for quite > some time > >now. It works great... we have our /usr and /var partitions > setup on 2 > >different mirrored volumes. The overhead is low and access times are > >great. With VINUM, if one of the mirrored disks go out, the > volume should > >not crash . As far as ccd goes, I have never used it, > but I believe > >both ccd and VINUM will not mirror a boot partition (I know > VINUM won't > >yet). The VINUM was difficult to install, only because I > was trying to use > >the port that comes with FBSD 3.1. If you go this route, I suggest > >downloading the lastest version and you shouldn't have > problems. Hope this > >helps... > > -- > NewsHub: http://www.NewsHub.com/tech/ | > MultiTrace: http://www.MultiTrace.com/ | Explore Your Net! > DomainSurfer: http://www.DomainSurfer.com/ | > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 11 10: 7:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B87014CB5 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:07:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA29687 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03933 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:46:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199906111646.MAA03933@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: redunancy without RAID In-Reply-To: <37683170.81567132@127.0.0.1> from Joe McDonald at "Jun 11, 1999 8:57:40 am" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:46:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joe McDonald recently said: > Do you know the best way to test if the mirror really works if > a drive goes bad? Pull the power to the drive as it's running? > Pull the scsi cable to the drive as it's running? Will this cause > physical damage to the drive? RAID is redundant DRIVES not cable. If you can power it off you should be fine. If you pull the cable you conceivable could kill your array - and have to backup from tape. I don't know if there is a best way. If your drives are removeable - just turn the key lock and pull it out. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 11 12:15: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sinope.eclipse.net.uk (sinope.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5456B14FE4 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by sinope.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA32168; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:13:48 +0100 Message-ID: <3761603A.E45DE070@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:15:06 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Vermillion Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: redunancy without RAID References: <199906111646.MAA03933@bilver.magicnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If you can power it off you should be fine. If you pull the cable > you conceivable could kill your array Seems to fit with how our 'proper' hotswap drives work, they do let you pull the drive from the cage but have two rows of pins, one row gets connected/disconnected before the other. A poweroff is a lot more 'normal' situation. > and have to backup from tape. Good point to make assuming this is a live system with important data :-))) Joe make sure you have a tape or copy on another system before you try this To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 12 8: 7:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from karon.elanders.no (karon.elanders.no [194.143.3.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D08914E1C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Received: by karon.elanders.no; id RAA05421; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:07:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990612165944.01c0f620@pop.saers.com> X-Sender: berenmls@pop.saers.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:06:12 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Niklas Saers Subject: Sendmail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. My servers harddrive just crashed, and I'm rebuilding my system now. It used to run FreeBSD 2.2.8, but I installed FreeBSD 3.2 now. With it, a new version of sendmail with spam-protection. Great! BUT, of course... always a but. ;) Most of my users, myself included, use it as a smtp server. That is, we use a client like (in my case) Eudora. I use imap-uw for pop and imap, but when I want to send my messages I get relaying denied. So how do I accept sending mails for the users on my system?? Sincerely yours Niklas Saers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 12 10:33:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.cpetc.com (unknown [207.137.157.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6246314E12 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:33:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kahn@deadbbs.com) Received: from cx273271-a (cx273271-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com [24.5.244.164]) by hermes.cpetc.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA21618; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:32:58 GMT From: "kahn" To: "'Niklas Saers'" , Subject: RE: Sendmail Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:35:38 -0700 Message-ID: <002301beb4f9$fc52e520$a4f40518@cx273271-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990612165944.01c0f620@pop.saers.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /etc/mail a file called relay-domains add the domains of your systems. If this does not work then add the IP address of each machine in this format [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] Good luck Erin mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com http://www.deadbbs.com http://www.fortenberry.net "Ah, young webmaster... java leads to shockwave. Shockwave leads to realaudio. And realaudio leads to suffering." --Peter da Silva --> -----Original Message----- --> --> Hi. My servers harddrive just crashed, and I'm rebuilding --> my system now. It --> used to run FreeBSD 2.2.8, but I installed FreeBSD 3.2 now. --> With it, a new --> version of sendmail with spam-protection. Great! BUT, of --> course... always a --> but. ;) Most of my users, myself included, use it as a smtp --> server. That --> is, we use a client like (in my case) Eudora. I use imap-uw --> for pop and --> imap, but when I want to send my messages I get relaying --> denied. So how do --> I accept sending mails for the users on my system?? --> --> Sincerely yours --> --> Niklas Saers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 12 16:28:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735CE14D50 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA43543; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 01:28:00 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 01:28:00 +0200 (SAST) From: Khetan Gajjar Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: kahn Cc: "'Niklas Saers'" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Sendmail In-Reply-To: <002301beb4f9$fc52e520$a4f40518@cx273271-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com> Message-ID: X-Mobile: +27 82 9907663 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Around Yesterday, "kahn" wrote : k> /etc/mail k> a file called relay-domains k> add the domains of your systems. If this does not work then add the IP k> address of each machine in this format [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] This is fine if the IP's are static, and only authorised users are using it; otherwise, you're opening your system to relaying abuse by other people. Otherwise, something like http://www.cynic.net/~cjs/computer/sendmail/poprelay.html should work nicely. I don't use his M4 stuff, but it's trivial to change most of the standard popauth stuff to work with this. --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@os.org.za http://khetan.os.org.za/ * Talk/Finger khetan@khetan.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast * http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ Reference : <002301beb4f9$fc52e520$a4f40518@cx273271-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com> Date : Jun 12, 1999, 10:35am To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message