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Date:      Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:25:50 +0100
From:      Tom Evans <>
To:        Chuck Swiger <>
Cc:        Norberto Meijome <>,
Subject:   Re: freebsd / gateway / parental control
Message-ID:  <1183551950.1213.14.camel@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <>
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On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 12:44 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Norberto Meijome wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:46:10 +0200
> > Momchil Ivanov <> wrote:
> >> 4) Forget about the DSL router. Box with wireless NIC, 1 NIC for home =
net, 1=20
> >> NIC for the DSL
> >> 	- same as above, just have to tell your box how to connect to your IS=
> >=20
> > ok, this is interesting. You mean, plug the phone line straight into, s=
> > fxp1 ? and then using ppp to connect over PPoE to your ISP?=20
> >=20
> > I had originally thought of getting a DSL card , but there doesn't seem=
 to be
> > any ADSL2/2+ supported.
> A phone line is RJ11 and can be only a single pair; ethernet cables which=
> into a fxp NIC are RJ45 and have four pairs.  :-)  If you wanted to conne=
> the phone line directly, you'd rightly need to get a DSL PCI card.
> However, you can connect a DSL modem into one side in bridge mode, and ha=
> the output of the DSL modem connect to a FreeBSD machine via ethernet whi=
> uses PPP to do the PPPoE/PPPoA negotiation, or you can use a "broadband=20
> router/switch" to do that, instead.
> Regards,

In your part of the world, yes. I've encountered setups (iirc in
Denmark?) where the telco terminates their line as an RJ-11 and an
RJ-45. You can then plug into that either a router that talks PPPoE on
an ethernet port, or directly into NIC in your computer and talk PPPoE
there. This is where PPPoE clients like rp-pppoe and their ilk come into

You can even do (rudimentary) sharing of the ADSL by plumbing it into a
hub. Any other client connected to the hub can kick off a PPPoE session.

Not many telcos do this these days I think..

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