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Date:      Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:08:11 +0100
From:      Guido van Rooij <guido@gvr.org>
To:        Helge Oldach <freebsd-stable-21nov02@oldach.net>
Cc:        "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>, archie@dellroad.org, dkelly@HiWAAY.net, sullrich@CRE8.COM, greg.panula@dolaninformation.com, FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPsec/gif VPN tunnel packets on wrong NIC in ipfw? SOLUTION AND QUESTIONS
Message-ID:  <20021121090811.GB96801@gvr.gvr.org>
In-Reply-To: <200211210837.gAL8b4Se080747@sep.oldach.net>
References:  <200211200820.gAK8Ki6G041336@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <200211210837.gAL8b4Se080747@sep.oldach.net>

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Hi Helge!

On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:37:04AM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote:
> The core problem is that we have a single routing table only, and hence
> we have a mix of internal and public routes. Consequently we will see
> both internal and external packets on interfaces. Therefore I don't see
> the need for an extra interface. I regard the gif set-up as confusion
> already, because this interface isn't used at all.

It is used. It is currently the only way to b able to filter on the
unencrypted packets.

> 
> Specifically, a beast such as esp0 would only work for ESP tunnel
> mode, but again add confusion for ESP transport mode and AH. (What IP
> addresses do you assign the esp0 interface in transport mode?)
> 
> Finally, such an implementation would be quite unique in the industry. I
> would prefer to keep reference to existing implementations.
> 

No it woudln't. See OpenBSD and NetBSD.

It seems you think this is a routing issue, but its not, It is a packet
filtering issue.

-Guido

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