From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 20:44:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054AC16A421; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:44:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mv.twc.weather.com (mv.twc.weather.com [65.212.71.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFF043D46; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:44:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.50.41.233] (Not Verified[10.50.41.233]) by mv.twc.weather.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6, 0, 3, 8) id ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:00:14 -0400 From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Daniel Eischen Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:45:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509211645.36060.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Threading/KSE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:44:34 -0000 On Tuesday 20 September 2005 02:55 pm, Daniel Eischen wrote: > I don't think anyone thinks that. But I prefer the old way. If we're > not properly keeping track of our ABI changes and what they affect, > then let's work on that problem. Symbol versioning isn't going to > solve that for us anyways. Yes, symbol versioning requires the same level of discipline as the more constrained library version number bumping. If we have decided that our developers are too incompetent to properly bump library versions for ABI changes then they are also too incompetent to handle symbol versioning. Furthermore, even with the massive library bumps, we have still stuck our collective heads in the sand and ignored all the port library version numbers. In theory they should all be bumped for 5 -> 6 as well. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org