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Date:      Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:02:01 -0500
From:      Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD
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Thank you, Julian -

Me bits be scrambled, methinks. Apologies all, correcting it I am now.,

For the record, the agreement was made in 1994. Here is the complete text.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=3D20041126130302760  -- :D

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote:
> Don Wilde wrote:
>> What is incorrect, Julian?
> .. etc.
>
> In 1977 I started learning Unix V6 as a Unix newbie. =A0There were
> no UCB bits I heard of till csh & job control & vi floated in to
> my Uni. a few years on, maybe 1980 +/- a year or 2, I'd guess about
> 82. =A0Can't remember when I heard of first complete BSD releases for
> PDP/VAX but after the individual bits.
>
> man 3 ctime
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"The functions ctime(), gmtime() and localtime() all take
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0as an argument a time value representing the time in secon=
ds
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0since the Epoch (00:00:00 UTC, January 1, 1970; see time(3=
))."
>
> 1970 in context quoted below ? No.
>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wro=
te:
>> >> From: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com>
>> > Don Wilde wrote:
>> >> http://www.engineeringjobfuture.com/articles/leverage/open-source-sof=
tware
>> > Article contains
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"The lawsuit was bitterly contested, but finally resolv=
ed.
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Everything developed before 1970 was declared by a judg=
e
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to be open forever more, and everything developed after
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0that was AT&T's property."
>> >
>> > False. I stopped reading at that point, after all, the journalist
>> > was probably just winging it, after a few emails to people who read
>> > the activity at the time (inc many of us doubtless).
>> >
>> > The people who know Most about the UCB Lite agreement, won't speak muc=
h
>> > anyway - they signed non disclosures.
>>
>> --
>> -- Don Wilde
>> =A0 =A0" Engineering the Future "
>> http://www.EngineeringJobFuture.com
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
> --
> Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix=
.com
> =A0Mail ASCII plain text not HTML & Base64. =A0 =A0 =A0http://asciiribbon=
.org
> =A0Virused Microsoft PCs cause spam. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://berkl=
ix.com/free/
>



--=20
-- Don Wilde
   " Engineering the Future "
http://www.EngineeringJobFuture.com



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