Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:39:12 +0100 From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, current <current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006 ) Message-ID: <27065.1135334352@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:57:48 %2B1030." <200512232058.14651.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
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I have consistently ignored all emails in this thread because the use of the word "demand" in the Subject. Whenever people use words like "demand" or "somebody should" in FreeBSD contexts, it indicates cluelessness to me. Cluelessness about how the project works and cluenessness about how things happen in the project and a touch of insensibility to the developers how seldom are paid to listen to such drivel. The precense if "binary updates" in the subject also indicated to me that we had to do with people who didn't really know what they were talking about nor indeed the implications of attempting to do what they demanded. Now that I've read the tread anyway I can to my chagrin see that I was right. In my opinion, and I readily admit that since I only have 20+ years of experience managing UNIX computers I may be totally wrong, binary updates is not what we really want. It's what people are used to, but it is not what they want. It would be much better to invest time in developing a configuration management system that allows the system administrators of FreeBSD installations to do their job more effectively than to spend time giving them the tool they know inwards and outwards is not an effective way to do their job. The assignment is simple, and with creative thinking maybe the solution is also: Bring to system administration what source code version control brought to programming. Merry Xmas, Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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