From owner-cvs-all Thu Sep 7 11: 6:43 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AAE37B422; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA34632; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:06:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: Warner Losh , "David E. O'Brien" , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/common boot.c module.c src/sys/boot/forth loader.conf src/sys/conf Makefile.alpha Makefile.i386 Makefile.pc98 kmod.mk src/share/mk bsd.own.mk In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 18:00:20 BST." <20000907180019.A3550@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 11:06:14 -0700 Message-ID: <34628.968349974@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Which are both excellent examples of how perception has gotten things > > entirely wrong. The libh work has its own mailing list and open CVS > > repository which anyone can subscribe to, > > Where was this announced? Searching for "libh" on our search engine turned It was discussed in several mailing lists, none I could be specific about due to the passage of time but I know it was discussed because I remember seeing the details in mail which wasn't addressed to me personally. Enough other people evidently saw it to get involved and the postmaster certainly knew enough to create a mailing list since those things don't just happen by magic. No offense, but some people need to read their email a little more closely and not assume malice or secrecy where inattention would be a much more accurate explanation for their ignorance of something. > This list isn't mentioned on the site search page, Deja hasn't seen any > announcements to it posted to the .announce group, and I've forgotten the The search page and other related documents, like the projects page, are the primary responsibility of the docs group and you'd actually be a in a far better position than most of us to explain just why those have not been kept in sync with FreeBSD's progress. :-) As for the .announce group, I don't know of anyone officially connected with the project save Joerg who even reads USENET anymore. BSDi's ISP dropped news long ago and I don't even have a news server I'm allowed to connect to, which pretty much rules out posting to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce or any other news group. > No offense intended to either Mike or Paul, but neither of those messages > reads as a "We're looking for volunteers, feel free to help out". Again, Actually, those sorts of messages went out quite a bit before the ones you cite, back when we were far more optimistic and naive about the prospects for a quick IA-64 port or the level of developer involvement. The principal problem there is that in order to be a volunteer you actually have to have some HARDWARE, and how many committers with IA-64 machines do you know of? Exactly. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message