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Message-ID: <3C5AE6A9@operamail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got the error mess. when I tried to start emacs: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object "libXaw.so.6" not found Someone in the ques. mailgroup said emacs is looking for an X-window lib. But, I have not installed X and will not for a time. I thought emacs like vi was "text based". why do I need X to start it? The suggestion was made (since I installed from packages), was to install emacs from the ports. I have never installed a prog. from ports. Ques: I installed a the port durring my FreeBSD install. Does that mean I don't have to download anything and thus could make emacs from what I already have on my local hd? 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 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 21 2: 1:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C32B37B419; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g0LA0FM28992; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:00:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:00:15 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-12-30 - 2002-01-19 Message-ID: <20020121120015.H16527@sunbay.com> References: <20020120051006.5D8ED7A8B@m20.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020120051006.5D8ED7A8B@m20.unixathome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 12:10:06AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical > examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly > to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people > know what's available on the website. Before you post a question > here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list > archives > and/or The FreeBSD Diary . > > These are the articles posted during this period: > > 16-Jan : Your Makefile has been rebuilt. > One very annoying failure of make buildworld... > http://freebsddiary.org/badtime.php?2 > I can add to this. Even if the date is set correctly, one still can experience the behaviour like this if some source files have modification dates pointing to a future time. A simple tool to eliminate these inconsistencies is ``find . -mtime -0'' followed by ``xargs touch''. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 21 12:31:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailbox.openface.ca (mailbox.openface.ca [216.46.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BC237B402 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from Bakounine.alternatives.ca ([216.46.17.231]) by mailbox.openface.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0LKVKr10851 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from sebas by Bakounine.alternatives.ca with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16SlCf-0006XP-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:38:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:38:05 -0500 From: Sebastien Grenier To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: compile apache with suexec from the port tree Message-ID: <20020121203805.GA25106@Bakounine.alternatives.ca> Reply-To: sebas-listes@iquebec.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I use portversion to keep my port tree in good shape. But how do I install apache with suexec support? Basically, how can I set option with the install from the port tree? I would like to know how to do it with portversion and without? Is there someone that can help me? Sebastien To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 21 16:45:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE65F37B400 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:45:35 -0800 (PST) X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Mon, 21 Jan 02 19:45:34 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: leegold Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:45:34 -0500 From: leegold To: brownicm@prokyon.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00000000 Subject: RE: emacs ques and a ports ques. Message-ID: <3C4DE77F@operamail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Just a suggestion. Forget emacs and learn vi. I think vi is easier for a new >user to get a handle on. It's always there on any UNIX-like system. It'll run >faster because it uses a lot less system resources than emacs. > yeah, I'm adequate on vi and thought I should experience Emacs, "The King of the Editors". After 10 minutes of emacs and I was beat to a pulp. I agree w/you. >Another suggestion. Since you installed all ports you probably installed >xemacs, the X version of emacs. Try to uninstall xemacs. Just a wild guess. >libXaw is a set of X widgets. 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------000000000000000000000-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 3:29: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B5E37B404 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([62.255.96.33]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020122112859.IMJT7206.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@localhost> for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:28:59 +0000 Received: from ac by localhost with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16Sz6L-0000Z7-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:28:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:28:29 +0000 From: Anthony Campbell To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Time to give up I fear Message-ID: <20020122112829.GA2161@debian.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I rather fear I've reached the point of no return with FreeBSD. Please understand this isn't a flame in any sense; the problems are probably a reflection of my own ignorance, but after a lot of work and lots of help from users I'm still unable to communicate with my modem, either on my laptop or my desktop. Neither tip nor ppp works for me. I have no problems with either on Linux so it can hardly be a hardware or BIOS problem. I like a lot of things about FreeBSD. notably its political philosophy (quite similar to that of Debian). However, Debian works admirably for me so FreeBSD has been just an experiment. I'm glad to have tried it and it's been an interesting learning experience, but I'm doubtful about persevering. (Perhaps this is just because I've had two bad colds in the past 10 days and am feeling rather low!) Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux GNU/Debian (Windows-free zone) For an electronic book (The Assassins of Alamut), skeptical essays, and over 150 book reviews, go to: http://www.acampbell.org.uk/ Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. [Carl Sagan] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 7:11:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe23.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C7337B402 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:11:52 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.100.88.16] From: "Gerardo Enrique Paredes" To: Subject: OH MY GOD Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:21:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Gerardo Enrique Paredes" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2002 15:11:52.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F41E920:01C1A357] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Red Hat Linux Professional costs $199.95 x86 Holy sh*t, they are getting perversely greedy, i see now why no one want to make a commercial distribution of FreeBSD, because, US, the comunity aroung FreeBSD love FreeBSD so much that we keep it at the right price FREE!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 9:28:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f230.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA2237B402 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:28:40 -0800 Received: from 213.175.73.112 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:28:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.175.73.112] From: "uwi mAn" To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: crash Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:28:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2002 17:28:40.0122 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B61F1A0:01C1A36A] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had a bad crash, recently? (well was doing something while system suddenly restarts oh I believe I was messing with DVD's) What logs can I check in order to find out what it caused? I'm completely clueless on this. BTW: /var/logs/all.log, messages.log and other don't clear the picture up, unfortunately. Any help is welcome. --uwi mAn. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 10:27:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BAA37B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:27:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from MrK1nt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.25.) id n.26.21ea96f9 (15864) for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:27:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from web34.aolmail.aol.com (web34.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.10]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINID63-0122132749; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:27:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:27:48 EST From: MrK1nt@aol.com Subject: Networking To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <26.21ea96f9.297f0925@aol.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Im going to get my FreeBSD box online and was thinking of upgrading to DSL. Does anyone know a good NIC that wont give me alot headaches? Also, does anyone in the NYC area know a good DSL provider? TIA!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 10:29:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E432937B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id g0MITh733600; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:29:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <021601c1a372$c4c79d20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Gerardo Enrique Paredes" , References: Subject: Re: OH MY GOD Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:29:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gerardo writes: > Red Hat Linux Professional costs $199.95 x86 > > Holy sh*t, they are getting perversely greedy ... I predicted this long ago. What did you expect? Red Hat and other Linux distributors are not in business out of an altruistic desire to bring computing to the masses free of charge. They'll make as much money as they can, in any way they can, just like any other company (including much-hated Microsoft). > ... i see now why no one want to make a commercial > distribution of FreeBSD, because, US, the comunity > aroung FreeBSD love FreeBSD so much that we keep > it at the right price FREE!!! Another good reason is that FreeBSD works as-is, "out of the box." You don't have to add a "distribution" with half the code in it just to get a complete operating system environment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 10:52: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C4637B41C for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0170218F3; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E409218F2; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:29:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:29:40 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: MrK1nt@aol.com Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking In-Reply-To: <26.21ea96f9.297f0925@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Im going to get my FreeBSD box online and was thinking of upgrading to > DSL. Does anyone know a good NIC that wont give me alot headaches? > Also, does anyone in the NYC area know a good DSL provider? Intel or Kingston. Stay away from SMC/Realtek and 3Com. Also asking questions like this on -questions will yield better results. :) Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 11:45:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABC937B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g0MJjXO08451; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:45:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <023d01c1a37d$5bd59cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Julian Peterson" Cc: "FreeBSD Newbies" References: <021601c1a372$c4c79d20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200201221907.g0MJ7D939739@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: OH MY GOD Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:45:30 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Julian writes: > You can still download *everything* (as iso > images if you wish) that comes with RH Pro from > their website. For the moment, perhaps. But wait and see. Red Hat is not going to be the first exception to the rule in the history of capitalism. As they get greedier, the idea of giving _anything_ away will seem more and more like giving away the goose that lays the golden eggs, and little by little, it will all become proprietary, one way or another. > The method they choose is through support > and services, and that seems to be working > for them thus far. Until they want more money, at least. > err, FreeBSD is just like a "distribution", 'cept > there's only one to choose from. Good! > If you don't like the idea of commercial distributions, > there's Debian for example. I'll just take FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 11:55:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from VOLTAIRE.stic.net (mail.stic.net [204.57.118.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C27037B404 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([216.198.62.18]) by VOLTAIRE.stic.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70040U18500L11000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:07:08 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Julian Peterson To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Gerardo Enrique Paredes" , Subject: Re: OH MY GOD Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:57:20 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <021601c1a372$c4c79d20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> In-Reply-To: <021601c1a372$c4c79d20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020122195554.1C27037B404@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:29 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Gerardo writes: > > Red Hat Linux Professional costs $199.95 x86 > > > > Holy sh*t, they are getting perversely greedy ... > > I predicted this long ago. What did you expect? Red Hat and other Linux > distributors are not in business out of an altruistic desire to bring > computing to the masses free of charge. They'll make as much money as > they can, in any way they can, just like any other company (including > much-hated Microsoft). > Oh please. You can still download *everything* (as iso images if you wish) that comes with RH Pro from their website. You can also buy the base CD's (all you really need anyway) for a couple of bucks from cheapbytes and linuxmall. But no, of course they're not doing it completely altruistically. They're a company. They're there to make money. The method they choose is through support and services, and that seems to be working for them thus far. On the flip side they help Linux a lot by providing full time programmers to work on open source software, and the whole community benefits there. But you can (legally =p) have a fully working RH system without paying them a dime. > > ... i see now why no one want to make a commercial > > distribution of FreeBSD, because, US, the comunity > > aroung FreeBSD love FreeBSD so much that we keep > > it at the right price FREE!!! > > Another good reason is that FreeBSD works as-is, "out of the box." You > don't have to add a "distribution" with half the code in it just to get a > complete operating system environment. > err, FreeBSD is just like a "distribution", 'cept there's only one to choose from. You don't "add a distribution", you choose one that packages everything you need. And they too work out of the box (that's the whole point after all). If you don't like the idea of commercial distributions, there's Debian for example. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 12:21: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from VOLTAIRE.stic.net (mail.stic.net [204.57.118.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA05037B421 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([216.198.62.18]) by VOLTAIRE.stic.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70040U18500L11000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:02:47 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Julian Peterson To: "Anthony Atkielski" Subject: Re: OH MY GOD Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:01:47 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: "FreeBSD Newbies" References: <200201221907.g0MJ7D939739@atkielski.com> <023d01c1a37d$5bd59cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> In-Reply-To: <023d01c1a37d$5bd59cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020122202028.EA05037B421@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 1:45 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Julian writes: > > You can still download *everything* (as iso > > images if you wish) that comes with RH Pro from > > their website. > > For the moment, perhaps. But wait and see. Red Hat is not going to be > the first exception to the rule in the history of capitalism. As they > get greedier, the idea of giving _anything_ away will seem more and more > like giving away the goose that lays the golden eggs, and little by > little, it will all become proprietary, one way or another. > Everything that they've done so far is GLP'd, so that's there forever in any case. And they're not stupid, they know if they start closing things up, that people will desert them... they're aware that it's not their goose. In any case, even if they did do that, there are other options, nothings lost... it is after all just one packaging of a set of free software. > > The method they choose is through support > > and services, and that seems to be working > > for them thus far. > > Until they want more money, at least. > I doubt that. It's very hard to make money on something that can be gotten for free. > > err, FreeBSD is just like a "distribution", 'cept > > there's only one to choose from. > > Good! > Right, that scary choice thing is baaaaaad > > If you don't like the idea of commercial distributions, > > there's Debian for example. > > I'll just take FreeBSD. That's fine. I use both. That's not the issue. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 16:31:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB67C37B41A for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:31:27 -0800 (PST) X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Tue, 22 Jan 02 19:31:27 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: leegold Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:31:27 -0500 From: leegold To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00000000 Subject: vesa bus x driver ? Message-ID: <3C4E5998@operamail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How the heck do I use a "vesa bus driver" for x-windows. I have an old 486 w/an s3 805 video chip and it's become a challange now to get it to run X. I have tried everything I know and #startX always fatally freezes my pc - no keyboard, no video, I have to manually reboot. It has been suggested I try the vesa driver. I can't find any documentation anywhere on how to implement this. Does anyone know what has to be done? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 17:34:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A2537B402 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BC08782D0; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:04:23 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:04:23 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Campbell Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to give up I fear Message-ID: <20020123120423.F62266@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020122112829.GA2161@debian.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020122112829.GA2161@debian.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 22 January 2002 at 11:28:29 +0000, Anthony Campbell wrote: > I rather fear I've reached the point of no return with FreeBSD. Please > understand this isn't a flame in any sense; the problems are probably a > reflection of my own ignorance, but after a lot of work and lots of help > from users I'm still unable to communicate with my modem, either on my > laptop or my desktop. Neither tip nor ppp works for me. I have no > problems with either on Linux so it can hardly be a hardware or BIOS > problem. I haven't seen you posting any questions on the FreeBSD-questions list. You shouldn't expect technical help on -newbies; that's not what the list is for, and most of the people who could help you aren't subscribed to it. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 19:10:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B4C37B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:10:22 -0800 (PST) X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Tue, 22 Jan 02 22:09:48 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: leegold Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:09:48 -0500 From: leegold To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: ac@acampbell.org.uk X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00000000 Subject: RE: Time to give up I fear Message-ID: <3C502016@operamail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >===== Original Message From Greg Lehey ===== >On Tuesday, 22 January 2002 at 11:28:29 +0000, Anthony Campbell wrote: >> I rather fear I've reached the point of no return with FreeBSD. Please >> understand this isn't a flame in any sense; the problems are probably a >> reflection of my own ignorance, but after a lot of work and lots of help >> from users I'm still unable to communicate with my modem, either on my >> laptop or my desktop. Neither tip nor ppp works for me. I have no >> problems with either on Linux so it can hardly be a hardware or BIOS >> problem. Sorry to state the obvious but have tried minicom? btw, "Linux : Installation, Configuration, Use" by M. Kofler has good modem setup info that helped me in Freebsd. I apologize if you already have tried this, I have not kept up w/your thread. You use minicom to see if you can "talk" to your modem. If after trying minicon and possibly playing w/the bios, the irq, looking at #demseg, the modem's hardware jumpers, and trying whatever they say in freebsd-questions, or comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, if after that you still can't do "ATZ" in minicom and get the modem to answer "OK", then hang it up (oh wow, a pun). BUT, then after ATZ OK works, use minicom to manually dial the isp and you can see exactly what the log in process is, and that can help w/the ppp part of it. If you report the login you see in minicom to freebsd-questions (better to post it there [though you could try going under the radar and post it in newbies - but more tech ques. aren't supposed to be posted here]) you will definately get ppp up. Lee G. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 22 21:24:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hueymiccailhuitl.mtu.ru (hueytecuilhuitl.mtu.ru [195.34.32.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BB137B405 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilia (ppp131-89.dialup.mtu-net.ru [62.118.131.89]) by hueymiccailhuitl.mtu.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id BA10523D1D for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:23:39 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from bessalov@mtu-net.ru) Message-ID: <003001c1a3ce$368d39a0$5983763e@ilia> From: "Bessalov Ilia" To: "FreeBSD Newbies" Subject: Making source-tree from distrib? Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:24:20 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2417.2000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody! I don't know how to complete this task. Can anybody help me (or say - is this question stupid ?:) I have source tree (that is /usr/src) installed from packages from CD release 4.3. As i understand it is NOT working source tree, cause there is CVS/ folder only in src/ itself, and no anywhere else (not in src/bin , src/contrib .... and so on). All tree tagged as RELENG_4_3 ( there is file src/CVS/Tag). As i understand this is enough to build a REAL source tree (that has CVS/ in every source folder) RELENG_4_3 and not download every file in tree from server. How can i do this with cvs(1) ? P.S. cvs up -r RELENG_4_3 -d - failed it starts to download all files Thnx. iLLL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 0: 2: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from windstorm.stormnet.com (windstorm.stormnet.com [205.159.174.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853D537B405 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (ppp011-56k-Chico-liquidsky.stormnet.com [207.231.3.11]) by windstorm.stormnet.com (8.10.1-StormNet/8.10.1) with SMTP id g0N81mf06735 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:01:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:01:49 -0800 From: Raquel Rice To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <20020123000149.0e7b9672.raquel@thericehouse.net> Organization: TheRiceHouse X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.1 (GTK+ 1.2.6; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 5970e755 unsubscribe freebsd-newbies raquel@thericehouse.net -- Raquel ============================================================ Once you live with the issue of women and the landscape for a while, you find that you cannot separate them from the notions of peace, spirituality, and community. As women we must learn to became leaders in society, not just for our own sake, but for the sake of all people. We must support and protect our kinship with the environment for the generations to come. --China Galland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 6:16:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f2node23.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node23.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.14.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924637B416 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p152.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.152]) by f2node23.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25994; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:03 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g0NE5Xu00633; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:05:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:05:33 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, ac@acampbell.org.uk Subject: RE: Time to give up I fear In-Reply-To: <3C502016@operamail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > not kept up w/your thread. You use minicom to see > if you can "talk" to your modem. If after trying Somewbody in the newsgroup once called kermit "bread and butter". Maybe we should be picky about such things in the newbies newsgroup too. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 12:53:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.takas.lt (mail-src.takas.lt [212.59.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F4637B402 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from praba ([212.59.27.162]) by mail.takas.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:53:36 +0200 From: "Francisco Borggia" To: Subject: deadlock Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:51:59 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1A460.90C611C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2002 20:53:36.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[0708A2F0:01C1A450] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1A460.90C611C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At the boot time of my recompiled kernel I get this message: "panic:processor features not configured (FPU,DE,TSC,MSR ...)", and it hangs.How can I return to GENERIC kernel from here ? Or should I reinstall everything from scratch? Help anybody,please. 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Message-ID: <3C517046@operamail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mine is an onboard chip in an IBM 486 value point pc. w/1 meg video ram. But, I got X up and running. I used "generic VGA" for the card/chip and VGA - the barest bones config. for the monitor, and I think "16" for the color depth (one up from the lowest) and you know - I got a simple but nifty x-windows. I think they key was to select generic VGA for the card. I'm not getting all the perfomance I can get out of the chip but Hey, I'm not using this thing for CAD to design suspension bridges. Not flashy but seems OK. Thanks, Lee G >===== Original Message From jmdupx@yahoo.com ===== >believe it or not, I was trying to set up a near identical card on a >machine last month, and i think you might be in for a rough time >with it > >first, you need to run XFconfig anyhow, to calibrate refresh rates >and so on, and you can ignore that the card is vesa or any other >kind of connector, since it is just the chipset that matters, which >means just picking the right Xserver - the one I tried to load and >configure for it in XFconfig was s3vga or similar, which is the >recommended one for this chip > >i have to warn you not to hold out much hope though, as despite >much effort when i tried to set up mine the card would have none of >it > >my card was also vesa, s3-805 chipset with 2mb on-board >RAM, and it worked just fine as a 16 colour card in Dos or >Windoze or (Suse) Linux which I tried it with to begin with, but no >matter how much I played around with jumpers on the card (which >I knew were right anyhow from an old manual), or with vesa TSR's >which I found on some websites or other stuff to help get the card >running I never once got xfconfig86 to load a server on it > >I became convinced the problem was due to some of the refresh >rate control circuitry, based on the fact that I also have some >DOS apps for setting up specific graphics modes, and this >software works great with just about every other card I've ever >setup (believe me, quite a few), and on the S3-805 it would lock >up instantly, no matter what display mode I was trying to configure - > exactly the same behavior as in XFconfig, which would not accept > a single display mode to test or adjust - it just locked the whole PC > >I know the card was working at a basic level, i had all the possible >information I could want about chipset, ramdac, clock chips etc >and all the memory (detachable chips) was tested ok on another >card too, so in the end I just figured it was something in the design >of the card itself > >i finally fitted a trident 9440 in the machine instead > >let me know if you could use the jumper layouts if you dont know >yours and think it could help > > >Jean-Mark >jmdupx_@_yahoo.com > > > > >On 22 Jan 2002, at 19:31, leegold wrote: > >> How the heck do I use a "vesa bus driver" for x-windows. >> I have an old 486 w/an s3 805 video chip and it's >> become a challange now to get it to run X. >> I have tried everything I know and #startX always >> fatally freezes my pc - no keyboard, no video, >> I have to manually reboot. >> >> It has been suggested I try the vesa driver. >> I can't find any documentation anywhere on how to >> implement this. Does anyone know what has to be done? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 13:19:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from encephalon.de (p3E9E18BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.158.24.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA8D37B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by encephalon.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NLGMJ00797; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:16:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:16:20 +0100 From: Roger Kaputtnik To: Francisco Borggia Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: deadlock Message-ID: <20020123221620.B764@encephalon.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Prabax@takas.lt on Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 10:51:59PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD encephalon.de 4.5-RC FreeBSD 4.5-RC Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. > At the boot time of my recompiled kernel I get this message: > "panic:processor features not configured (FPU,DE,TSC,MSR ...)", > and it hangs.How can I return to GENERIC kernel from here ? Or should > I > reinstall everything from scratch? Help anybody,please. At the 10 second countdown, press a key (except return). Enter: "boot kernel.GENERIC" In YOUR kernel configuration. You have choosen the wrong CPU. If you have booted with the generic kernel, type "dmesg" and look what it says about your CPU (class 586 or 686 or what else...) What kind of CPU is in your machine ? hth. Axel -- encephalon.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 13:27:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDE3C37B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-225-32-115.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com (HELO jmdoliv) (80.225.32.115) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2002 21:27:28 -0000 From: jmdupx@yahoo.com To: leegold Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:27:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: vesa bus x driver ? Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3C4F2AB7.3341.490EE3D@localhost> In-reply-to: <3C516B86@operamail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yep, sounds like the only thing i didnt try with my card, but didnt like the idea of running in just 16 colours on that system up to what resolution can you get yours to display now? Jean-Mark jmdupx_@_yahoo.com On 23 Jan 2002, at 15:56, leegold wrote: > Mine is an onboard chip in an IBM 486 value point pc. > w/1 meg video ram. > > But, I got X up and running. > > I used "generic VGA" for the card/chip > and VGA - the barest bones config. for the > monitor, and I think "16" for the color depth > (one up from the lowest) and you know - > I got a simple but nifty x-windows. > > I think they key was to select generic VGA for the card. > I'm not getting all the perfomance I can get out of the > chip but Hey, I'm not using this thing for CAD to design > suspension bridges. Not flashy but seems OK. > > > Thanks, > Lee G > > > >===== Original Message From jmdupx@yahoo.com ===== > >believe it or not, I was trying to set up a near identical card on a > >machine last month, and i think you might be in for a rough time with > >it > > > >first, you need to run XFconfig anyhow, to calibrate refresh rates > >and so on, and you can ignore that the card is vesa or any other kind > >of connector, since it is just the chipset that matters, which means > >just picking the right Xserver - the one I tried to load and > >configure for it in XFconfig was s3vga or similar, which is the > >recommended one for this chip > > > >i have to warn you not to hold out much hope though, as despite > >much effort when i tried to set up mine the card would have none of > >it > > > >my card was also vesa, s3-805 chipset with 2mb on-board > >RAM, and it worked just fine as a 16 colour card in Dos or > >Windoze or (Suse) Linux which I tried it with to begin with, but no > >matter how much I played around with jumpers on the card (which I > >knew were right anyhow from an old manual), or with vesa TSR's > >which I found on some websites or other stuff to help get the card > >running I never once got xfconfig86 to load a server on it > > > >I became convinced the problem was due to some of the refresh > >rate control circuitry, based on the fact that I also have some DOS > >apps for setting up specific graphics modes, and this software works > >great with just about every other card I've ever setup (believe me, > >quite a few), and on the S3-805 it would lock up instantly, no > >matter what display mode I was trying to configure - > > exactly the same behavior as in XFconfig, which would not accept a > > single display mode to test or adjust - it just locked the whole PC > > > >I know the card was working at a basic level, i had all the possible > >information I could want about chipset, ramdac, clock chips etc and > >all the memory (detachable chips) was tested ok on another card too, > >so in the end I just figured it was something in the design of the > >card itself > > > >i finally fitted a trident 9440 in the machine instead > > > >let me know if you could use the jumper layouts if you dont know > >yours and think it could help > > > > > >Jean-Mark > >jmdupx_@_yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >On 22 Jan 2002, at 19:31, leegold wrote: > > > >> How the heck do I use a "vesa bus driver" for x-windows. > >> I have an old 486 w/an s3 805 video chip and it's > >> become a challange now to get it to run X. > >> I have tried everything I know and #startX always > >> fatally freezes my pc - no keyboard, no video, > >> I have to manually reboot. > >> > >> It has been suggested I try the vesa driver. > >> I can't find any documentation anywhere on how to > >> implement this. Does anyone know what has to be done? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 14:35: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6150837B416 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from TON3 (a232152.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.232.152]) by smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g0NMZ00R063420 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:35:00 +0100 (CET) From: "Ton Spaan" To: Subject: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:38:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I just installed my first FreeBSD server. I'ts so easy. But can't get it shut down. I'm able to log in as Root but what is the command to shut down. BTW I lost the configuration of my NIC but I will find it back ;-) groetjes, Ton Spaan (haal removethis uit mijn E-mail adres weg) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 14:41:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3CE37B425 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp8-111.ath.forthnet.gr Bernie_X@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [213.16.155.111] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with Novell NIMS $Revision: 2.88 $ on Novell NetWare; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:41:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:28:58 +0200 (EET) From: Bernie X-X-Sender: root@BLAST To: Ton Spaan Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( In-Reply-To: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> Message-ID: <20020123222831.Q188-100000@BLAST> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Ton Spaan wrote: > Hi there, > > I just installed my first FreeBSD server. I'ts so easy. > But can't get it shut down. > I'm able to log in as Root but what is the command to shut down. > 'halt' will do it... > > BTW I lost the configuration of my NIC but I will find it back ;-) > > > > groetjes, > > Ton Spaan > (haal removethis uit mijn E-mail adres weg) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 14:43:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E2037B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch00.acuson.com ([157.226.230.212]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA587B; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:43:24 -0800 Received: by mvaexch00.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:38:56 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-168.acuson.com [157.226.46.168]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVDDSTM; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:34:25 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Ton Spaan , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:43:14 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> In-Reply-To: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020123224327.F1E2037B400@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 23 January 2002 02:38 pm, Ton Spaan wrote: > Hi there, > > I just installed my first FreeBSD server. I'ts so easy. > But can't get it shut down. > I'm able to log in as Root but what is the command to shut down. Log in as root and type "shutdown -h now". As a server that's all you'll ever need. As a desktop client I find kdm to very convenient as it allows normal users to log off. Read the kdm instructions very carefully first before enabling this on a remotely accessible box. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 14:44:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D806837B405 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-20-214.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.20.214]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00210; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:44:21 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020123164418.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:44:18 -0600 To: "Ton Spaan" , From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( In-Reply-To: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Congrats, Ton! ...and welcome to FBSD! If you want to shut down (then turn off the power switch if desired): #shutdown -p now ...should do it.... At 11:38 PM 1.23.2002 +0100, Ton Spaan wrote: >Hi there, > >I just installed my first FreeBSD server. I'ts so easy. >But can't get it shut down. >I'm able to log in as Root but what is the command to shut down. > > >BTW I lost the configuration of my NIC but I will find it back ;-) > > > >groetjes, > >Ton Spaan >(haal removethis uit mijn E-mail adres weg) > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin =================================================== Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; ....situation excellent! ....I shall attack!" =================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 15: 0:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9A637B417 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-20-214.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.20.214]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA02731; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:00:30 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020123170027.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:00:27 -0600 To: "Ton Spaan" , From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020123164418.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> References: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ...I just reread my answer and it might be confusing: I said: ============================== "If you want to shut down (then turn off the power switch if desired): #shutdown -p now ...should do it.... ============================== DO NOT turn off the power switch first.... run the shutdown command and THEN turn off the power if desired.... At 04:44 PM 1.23.2002 -0600, jacks@sage-american.com wrote: >Congrats, Ton! ...and welcome to FBSD! > >If you want to shut down (then turn off the power switch if desired): >#shutdown -p now >...should do it.... > >At 11:38 PM 1.23.2002 +0100, Ton Spaan wrote: >>Hi there, >> >>I just installed my first FreeBSD server. I'ts so easy. >>But can't get it shut down. >>I'm able to log in as Root but what is the command to shut down. >> >> >>BTW I lost the configuration of my NIC but I will find it back ;-) >> >> >> >>groetjes, >> >>Ton Spaan >>(haal removethis uit mijn E-mail adres weg) >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> > >Best regards, >Jack L. Stone, >Server Admin > >=================================================== >Sage-American >http://www.sage-american.com >jacks@sage-american.com > >"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; >....situation excellent! ....I shall attack!" >=================================================== > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin =================================================== Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; ....situation excellent! ....I shall attack!" =================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 15:32:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9661A37B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20688 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2002 23:29:05 -0000 Received: from dialup3-ceid-dialinpool-6.upatras.gr (HELO hades.hell.gr) (root@150.140.128.198) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 23 Jan 2002 23:29:05 -0000 Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NNWAu10321; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:32:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:32:10 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ton Spaan Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( Message-ID: <20020123233210.GA9959@hades.hell.gr> References: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c1a45e$a712e900$98e8a33e@TON3> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-23 23:38:16, Ton Spaan wrote: > BTW I lost the configuration of my NIC but I will find it back ;-) Hello Ton, That can be fixed later on. The installation program can be found at /stand/sysinstall when you finish. Of course, you can also configure your network card by editing the /etc/rc.conf file. Since you're a beginner, it's pointless to send you searching for documentation yourself. Start at http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html and remember that above all, this is supposed to be fun... Cheers, -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 18:26:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F9237B416 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:26:38 -0800 (PST) X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Wed, 23 Jan 02 21:26:37 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: leegold Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:26:37 -0500 From: leegold To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00000000 Subject: RE: Time to give up I fear Message-ID: <3C55780C@operamail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >===== Original Message From Heiko Recktenwald ===== >> not kept up w/your thread. You use minicom to see >> if you can "talk" to your modem. If after trying > >Somewbody in the newsgroup once called kermit >"bread and butter". Maybe we should be picky about such things in the >newbies newsgroup too. > > >H. Pick away. The gist of what I am saying is to use minicom. It's like starting from the power supply to troubleshoot a circuit. Oh sorry, I did it again. Damm! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 20: 0:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netranking.jp (ns.netranking.jp [202.224.198.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7821937B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mag (192.168.1.54) by mail.netranking.jp with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:14:43 +0900 From: "2525do" To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?IRskQjktOXAbKEIhIBskQiVRJT0lMyVzISYbKEJPQRskQiROJE0kQyRIRExITiFWJEskMyRLJDNGOyFXJSohPCVXJXMkTiQ0MEZGYhsoQg==?= X-Mailer: A-1 Mail SOHO Ver1.02 Copyright(c) 2001 INGRAM inc. 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Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:11:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020124041133.49034.qmail@web21010.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [137.132.3.9] by web21010.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:11:33 GMT Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:11:33 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tadimeti=20Keshav?= Subject: URGENT:how to down load i386 ISOs? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am trying to download the iso images for Intel platform using windows. Using a browser, I go to the relavant directory. I can see the file 4.4-min.iso Q1: DO I right click & save the file to be able to burn a bootable FreeBSD CDROM? Q2: What is the file CHECKSUM.MD5 for? Should I download this also? I have limited time to access a broadband connection. SO I would appreciate a quick answer. Thank you __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 23 20:54:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21003.mail.yahoo.com (web21003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFDB937B416 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:54:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020124045426.29179.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [137.132.3.9] by web21003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:54:26 GMT Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:54:26 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tadimeti=20Keshav?= Subject: Re: URGENT:how to down load i386 ISOs? To: Jaron Omega Cc: newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020124041808.GA37333@af-inet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks Jaron, Specifically, I want to know how to save the file. When I right click & try to save the file it tries to save it as '4.4-install'. Should I append '.iso' to make it look like '4.4-install-iso'? Thanks --- Jaron Omega wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:11:33AM +0000, Tadimeti > Keshav wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to download the iso images for Intel > > platform using windows. > > > > Using a browser, I go to the relavant directory. > > I can see the file 4.4-min.iso > > > > Q1: DO I right click & save the file to be able to > > burn a bootable FreeBSD CDROM? > > Q2: What is the file CHECKSUM.MD5 for? Should I > > download this also? > > > > I have limited time to access a broadband > connection. > > SO I would appreciate a quick answer. > > > > Thank you > > You download the iso image.. the CHECKSUM.MD5 is > not needed. > > Jaron Omega __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 2:45:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13307.mail.yahoo.com (web13307.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 554F437B400 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:45:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020124104534.97108.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.11.204.241] by web13307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:45:34 PST Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:45:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Mark Dupoux Subject: RE: vesa bus x driver ? To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3C5512F3@operamail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Lee, If you're using the VGA X-server then im pretty sure 16 means just 16 colors - I always assumed it was also maximum screen size of 640 x 480, which is what I meant to be asking in my last post : << which screen resolution>> Jean-Mark jmdupx_@_yahoo.com --- leegold wrote: > >===== Original Message From jmdupx@yahoo.com ===== > >yep, sounds like the only thing i didnt try with > my card, but didnt > >like the idea of running in just 16 colours on > that system > > I think the 16 refers for 16 bit color? > I think I get 256 colors. > > Standby, I will find out what my settings are > tomorrow. > Since you have 2 meg video ram you probably could > get more > colors by using the 24 bit mode. I used XF86Setup to > configure X. > > I'll have to look at some jpegs and see how good/bad > it really is. > > Lee > > > > >up to what resolution can you get yours to display > now? > > > >Jean-Mark > >jmdupx_@_yahoo.com > > > > > >On 23 Jan 2002, at 15:56, leegold wrote: > > > >> Mine is an onboard chip in an IBM 486 value point > pc. > >> w/1 meg video ram. > >> > >> But, I got X up and running. > >> > >> I used "generic VGA" for the card/chip > >> and VGA - the barest bones config. for the > >> monitor, and I think "16" for the color depth > >> (one up from the lowest) and you know - > >> I got a simple but nifty x-windows. > >> > >> I think they key was to select generic VGA for > the card. > >> I'm not getting all the perfomance I can get out > of the > >> chip but Hey, I'm not using this thing for CAD to > design > >> suspension bridges. Not flashy but seems OK. > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Lee G > >> > >> > >> >===== Original Message From jmdupx@yahoo.com > ===== > >> >believe it or not, I was trying to set up a near > identical card on a > >> >machine last month, and i think you might be in > for a rough time with > >> >it > >> > > >> >first, you need to run XFconfig anyhow, to > calibrate refresh rates > >> >and so on, and you can ignore that the card is > vesa or any other kind > >> >of connector, since it is just the chipset that > matters, which means > >> >just picking the right Xserver - the one I tried > to load and > >> >configure for it in XFconfig was s3vga or > similar, which is the > >> >recommended one for this chip > >> > > >> >i have to warn you not to hold out much hope > though, as despite > >> >much effort when i tried to set up mine the card > would have none of > >> >it > >> > > >> >my card was also vesa, s3-805 chipset with > 2mb on-board > >> >RAM, and it worked just fine as a 16 colour > card in Dos or > >> >Windoze or (Suse) Linux which I tried it with > to begin with, but no > >> >matter how much I played around with jumpers on > the card (which I > >> >knew were right anyhow from an old manual), or > with vesa TSR's > >> >which I found on some websites or other stuff > to help get the card > >> >running I never once got xfconfig86 to load a > server on it > >> > > >> >I became convinced the problem was due to some > of the refresh > >> >rate control circuitry, based on the fact that > I also have some DOS > >> >apps for setting up specific graphics modes, > and this software works > >> >great with just about every other card I've > ever setup (believe me, > >> >quite a few), and on the S3-805 it would lock > up instantly, no > >> >matter what display mode I was trying to > configure - > >> > exactly the same behavior as in XFconfig, > which would not accept a > >> > single display mode to test or adjust - it just > locked the whole PC > >> > > >> >I know the card was working at a basic level, i > had all the possible > >> >information I could want about chipset, ramdac, > clock chips etc and > >> >all the memory (detachable chips) was tested ok > on another card too, > >> >so in the end I just figured it was something in > the design of the > >> >card itself > >> > > >> >i finally fitted a trident 9440 in the machine > instead > >> > > >> >let me know if you could use the jumper layouts > if you dont know > >> >yours and think it could help > >> > > >> > > >> >Jean-Mark > >> >jmdupx_@_yahoo.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >On 22 Jan 2002, at 19:31, leegold wrote: > >> > > >> >> How the heck do I use a "vesa bus driver" for > x-windows. > >> >> I have an old 486 w/an s3 805 video chip and > it's > >> >> become a challange now to get it to run X. > >> >> I have tried everything I know and #startX > always > >> >> fatally freezes my pc - no keyboard, no video, > >> >> I have to manually reboot. > >> >> > >> >> It has been suggested I try the vesa driver. > >> >> I can't find any documentation anywhere on how > to > >> >> implement this. Does anyone know what has to > be done? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to > majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body > of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >_________________________________________________________ > >> > > >> >Do You Yahoo!? > >> > > >> >Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 5:58: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scandd1.fhg.de (scandd1.dresden.fhg.de [192.102.167.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E37237B404 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 05:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from scandd1.fhg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scandd1.fhg.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0ODvvR19147; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:57:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from iis.fhg.de (iis.iis.fhg.de [153.96.172.2]) by scandd1.fhg.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0ODvuc19143; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:57:56 +0100 (MET) Received: by iis.fhg.de with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:57:55 +0100 (MET) from sunserv02.iis.fhg.de Received: from gmx.net by sunserv02.iis.fhg.de (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id OAA06501; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:57:54 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C50127C.B47D406C@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:56:12 +0100 From: Michael Haertl Organization: private X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tadimeti Keshav Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: URGENT:how to down load i386 ISOs? References: <20020124045426.29179.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > Specifically, I want to know how to save the file. > When I right click & try to save the file it tries to > save it as '4.4-install'. Should I append '.iso' to > make it look like '4.4-install-iso'? The name is not critical. And you can always rename it after downloading. It depends on your cd burning program if it accepts a file without the extension *.iso. > > Q2: What is the file CHECKSUM.MD5 for? Should I > > download this also? This file is optional. It contains a short ascii-string of the md5-checksum of the iso-image (just for verification purposes). If you run the command md5 or sometimes md5sum on a unix-box then you should get the same checksum string printed out after a while. HTH -- /* Michael Haertl */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 7:22:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54FA937B400 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fi-tnt0217.zapsurf.com.sg (HELO keshav) (203.169.68.17) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2002 15:22:09 -0000 Message-ID: <002101c1a4ea$f3454430$1144a9cb@keshav> From: "Keshav Tadimeti" To: Subject: ports included in ISOs? Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:20:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1A52D.BBB09DB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1A52D.BBB09DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, Thanks for your answers. I gather that all I do is copy the file = 4.4-install.iso for example to the CD-ROM. SO when I load the cd-rom on = to windows, I should be able to see only ONE file - 4.4-install.iso for = example. Q: I have the standard (mini edition) for 4.3. Under WIn NT I do a dir = of F: (which is my CD rom drive containing 4.3 BSD. The output is as = follows: Directory of F:\ 04/21/01 11:46a . 04/21/01 11:46a .. 04/21/01 04:16a 9,707 ABOUT.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 980 ERRATA.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 34,686 HARDWARE.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 25,484 INSTALL.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 4,722 LAYOUT.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 3,615 README.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 42,508 RELNOTES.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 17,777 TROUBLE.TXT 04/21/01 04:16a 8,453 UPGRADE.TXT 04/20/01 09:44p XF86336 04/21/01 04:15a bin 04/21/01 04:15a catpages 04/21/01 04:16a 25 cdrom.inf 04/21/01 04:15a compat1x 04/21/01 04:15a compat20 04/21/01 04:15a compat21 04/21/01 04:15a compat22 04/21/01 04:15a compat3x 04/21/01 04:15a compat4x 04/21/01 04:15a crypto 04/21/01 04:15a dict 04/21/01 04:15a doc 04/21/01 12:33p 87,189 filename.txt 04/21/01 04:15a floppies 04/21/01 04:15a games 04/21/01 04:15a info 04/21/01 04:15a 5,606,172 kernel 04/21/01 04:15a manpages 04/19/01 08:27p packages 04/21/01 04:27a ports 04/21/01 04:15a proflibs 04/21/01 04:15a src 04/20/01 09:44p tools 35 File(s) 5,841,318 bytes I got this CD-ROM from a local reseller who makes money by downloading = Linux and BSD images from the NET and burining it on CD-ROM.=20 How do I make the right copy? I can't boot to FreeBSD and do the CD-burning. I am a novice. Any leads would be appreciated. With regards, ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1A52D.BBB09DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
Thanks for your answers. I gather that = all I do is=20 copy the file 4.4-install.iso for example to the CD-ROM. SO when I load = the=20 cd-rom on to windows, I should be able to see only ONE file - = 4.4-install.iso=20 for example.
 
Q: I have the standard (mini edition) = for 4.3.=20 Under WIn NT I do a dir of F: (which is my CD rom drive containing 4.3 = BSD. The=20 output is as follows:
 Directory of F:\
 
04/21/01 =20 11:46a       =20 <DIR>         =20 .
04/21/01  11:46a       =20 <DIR>         =20 ..
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;    =20 9,707 ABOUT.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;      =20 980 ERRATA.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;   =20 34,686 HARDWARE.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;   =20 25,484 INSTALL.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;    =20 4,722 LAYOUT.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;    =20 3,615 README.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;   =20 42,508 RELNOTES.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;   =20 17,777 TROUBLE.TXT
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;    =20 8,453 UPGRADE.TXT
04/20/01 =20 09:44p       =20 <DIR>         =20 XF86336
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 bin
04/21/01  04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 catpages
04/21/01 =20 04:16a           &= nbsp;       =20 25 cdrom.inf
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 compat1x
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 compat20
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 compat21
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 compat22
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 compat3x
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 compat4x
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 crypto
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 dict
04/21/01  04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 doc
04/21/01 =20 12:33p           &= nbsp;   =20 87,189 filename.txt
04/21/01 =20 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 floppies
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 games
04/21/01  04:15a        = <DIR>         =20 info
04/21/01 =20 04:15a           &= nbsp;=20 5,606,172 kernel
04/21/01 =20 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 manpages
04/19/01  = 08:27p       =20 <DIR>         =20 packages
04/21/01  = 04:27a       =20 <DIR>         =20 ports
04/21/01  04:15a        = <DIR>         =20 proflibs
04/21/01  = 04:15a       =20 <DIR>         =20 src
04/20/01  09:44p       =20 <DIR>         =20 tools
          &nbs= p;  =20 35 File(s)      5,841,318 bytes
 
I got this CD-ROM from a local reseller = who makes=20 money by downloading Linux and BSD images from the NET and burining it = on=20 CD-ROM.
How do I make the right = copy?
 
I can't boot to FreeBSD and do the = CD-burning. I am=20 a novice.
Any leads would be = appreciated.
With = regards,
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 7:39: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659B637B41A for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0OFcse26072; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:38:55 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2002012416361807:12332 ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:36:18 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0OFnVZ10644; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:49:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:49:31 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Keshav Tadimeti Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports included in ISOs? Message-ID: <20020124164930.A52103@roman.mobil.cz> References: <002101c1a4ea$f3454430$1144a9cb@keshav> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002101c1a4ea$f3454430$1144a9cb@keshav> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 01/24/2002 04:36:18 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 01/24/2002 04:36:24 PM, Serialize complete at 01/24/2002 04:36:24 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: "Keshav Tadimeti" > To: > Subject: ports included in ISOs? > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:20:38 +0800 Hi Keshav, break your lines at about 70 chars. > Hello All, > Thanks for your answers. I gather that all I do is copy the file > 4.4-install.iso for example to the CD-ROM. SO when I load the cd-rom > on to windows, I should be able to see only ONE file - 4.4-install.iso > for example. No, you won't be able to boot from such a CD. Your cd-burning software should have an option called like "create a cd from ISO". That's what you want to use. > I can't boot to FreeBSD and do the CD-burning. I am a novice. You don't need FreeBSD to create a working CD from an ISO image. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 4:46PM up 3 days, 23:10, 7 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.07 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 7:59:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13301.mail.yahoo.com (web13301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECED537B400 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:59:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020124155650.79692.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.11.204.241] by web13301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:56:50 PST Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:56:50 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Mark Dupoux Subject: Re: URGENT:how to down load i386 ISOs? To: Michael Haertl Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3C50127C.B47D406C@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org there is a DOS version of md5sum to check the file integrity too Jean-Mark jmdupx_@_yahoo.com --- Michael Haertl wrote: > Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > > Specifically, I want to know how to save the file. > > When I right click & try to save the file it tries > to > > save it as '4.4-install'. Should I append '.iso' > to > > make it look like '4.4-install-iso'? > > The name is not critical. And you can always rename > it > after downloading. > > It depends on your cd burning program if it accepts > a > file without the extension *.iso. > > > > Q2: What is the file CHECKSUM.MD5 for? Should I > > > download this also? > > This file is optional. It contains a short > ascii-string > of the md5-checksum of the iso-image (just for > verification purposes). If you run the command > > md5 or sometimes > md5sum > > on a unix-box then you should get the same checksum > string printed out after a while. > > HTH > > -- > /* Michael Haertl */ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 10:40: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alim.com (www.alim.com [4.19.130.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9C137B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from crashbox ([4.19.130.41]) by mail.alim.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59533U600L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:40:02 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c1a506$8731cfe0$29821304@crashbox> From: "FreeBSD" To: Subject: Yet Another Kernel Question Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:39:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well I am back (I really must be annoying). Well I tried compiling the GENERIC kernel without any changes and it gave me the same error I posted to the list. So I am going to try and find another clean copy of the generic kernel and use that. I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction as to where to get a copy of the FreeBSD4.3 kernel. I looked at one of the FreeBSD.org mirror FTP sites and couldn't find one. So if there is anyone out there who can help me it would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance. Kevin Aug -Web Designer http://www.datalinkny.com http://www.datalinkwireless.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 10:42: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E4537B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0AB6318F3; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F2A18F2; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:41:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:41:27 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: FreeBSD Cc: FREEBSD-NEWBIES@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet Another Kernel Question In-Reply-To: <000b01c1a506$8731cfe0$29821304@crashbox> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well I am back (I really must be annoying). Well I tried compiling the > GENERIC kernel without any changes and it gave me the same error I posted to > the list. So I am going to try and find another clean copy of the generic > kernel and use that. I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right > direction as to where to get a copy of the FreeBSD4.3 kernel. I looked at > one of the FreeBSD.org mirror FTP sites and couldn't find one. So if there > is anyone out there who can help me it would be very appreciated. Thanks in > advance. Please ask these type of questions on -questions. That is what it is for. -newbies is not for technical questions at all. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 13:12:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF02B37B400 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from TON3 (a232152.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.232.152]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g0OLC6Y1084154 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:12:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Ton Spaan" To: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: RE: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:15:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c1a51c$3ee72e90$98e8a33e@TON3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020123170027.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]Namens jacks@sage-american.com Verzonden: donderdag 24 januari 2002 0:00 Aan: Ton Spaan; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Onderwerp: Re: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( ...I just reread my answer and it might be confusing: I said: ============================== "If you want to shut down (then turn off the power switch if desired): #shutdown -p now ...should do it.... ============================== DO NOT turn off the power switch first.... run the shutdown command and THEN turn off the power if desired.... Don't worry I did understand the steps to take ;-) But does anyone can tell me if i'm seeing ghosts? This is the first time i'm handeling FBSD. But it seems so complex I don't know where to start. For sure I understand I was building a firewall. So I know I have to use 2 NIC's The first gets the IP-number and all the other stuff from the DHCP-server from my provider. But the second one must have an Ip-number in my local network. I managed to do that. (how a grown-up can be happy with this small adjustments ;-) ) And now. I can ping my lacal network adapter. That's funny he reply's ;-) Can anyone tell me in a few line's witch steps I have to go trough? No I don't expect U to tell me how to configure the whole server (I like to manage that by myself) just point me in the right direction. I've started to look trough the FBSD handbook. But if I have to implement all the intresting things I read there I won't be able to get this thing running the next couple of years. And so another question. Does anyone have expirience with Symantec ghost? I'd like to make often a ghost image of my boot device. (U know if U mess up the stuff you can take a step back) Maybe I'm gonna find out first now I know the basics of installing and shut down ;-) Anyway thanks for your help. Maybe there will be a day you'll hope I'm not around (questions, questions) BTW exept I speak english I'm dutch. At 04:44 PM 1.23.2002 -0600, jacks@sage-american.com wrote: >Congrats, Ton! ...and welcome to FBSD! > >If you want to shut down (then turn off the power switch if desired): >#shutdown -p now >...should do it.... > >At 11:38 PM 1.23.2002 +0100, Ton Spaan wrote: >>Hi there, >> >>I just installed my first FreeBSD server. I'ts so easy. >>But can't get it shut down. >>I'm able to log in as Root but what is the command to shut down. >> >> >>BTW I lost the configuration of my NIC but I will find it back ;-) >> >> >> >>groetjes, >> >>Ton Spaan >>(haal removethis uit mijn E-mail adres weg) >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> > >Best regards, >Jack L. Stone, >Server Admin > >=================================================== >Sage-American >http://www.sage-american.com >jacks@sage-american.com > >"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; >....situation excellent! ....I shall attack!" >=================================================== > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin =================================================== Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; ....situation excellent! ....I shall attack!" =================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 13:23:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.home.nl (mail4.home.nl [213.51.129.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB01837B400 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([213.51.183.186]) by mail4.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20020124212353.IOWT9320.mail4.home.nl@there> for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:23:53 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chris Delnooz To: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: Re: My first installation ;-) with a problem :-( Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:24:06 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <001301c1a51c$3ee72e90$98e8a33e@TON3> In-Reply-To: <001301c1a51c$3ee72e90$98e8a33e@TON3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020124212353.IOWT9320.mail4.home.nl@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Can anyone tell me in a few line's witch steps I have to go trough? > > No I don't expect U to tell me how to configure the whole server (I like to > manage that by myself) just point me in the right direction. > Take a look at www.freebsddiary.org they have a lot of stuff on about every fbsd related topic. I used the article "Quick Cablenet Connections with FreeBSD" to build my own firewall/gateway thingy and it works great. Anyway, just go to freebsddiary and browse around, you'll find something for sure :) Groeten (yes a fellow Dutchie) Chris Delnooz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 14:12: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20108.mail.yahoo.com (web20108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73C1E37BA42 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:08:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020124220833.17562.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.24.231.232] by web20108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:08:33 PST Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:08:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ben P Subject: Newsgroups and more, oh my! To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm gettig roughly 150 messages in my inbox a day. While I am helped by most of them, this is a staggering amount of email for someone who gets maybe an hour a day to read his email. I was wondering if there was some form of newsgroup that I could subscribe to that would have the same content as the mailing list, and, if so, how would I go about setting it up. I know this is a very "newbie" question, but thanks you for helping. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 18:58:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7217237B416 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (ip206102033154.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.33.154]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0P2psU14890; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:51:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200201250251.g0P2psU14890@mail.ezwv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: Ben P Subject: Re: Newsgroups and more, oh my! Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:59:24 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20020124220833.17562.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020124220833.17562.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 24 January 2002 05:08 pm, Ben P wrote: > I'm gettig roughly 150 messages in my inbox a day. > While I am helped by most of them, this is a > staggering amount of email for someone who gets maybe > an hour a day to read his email. > > I was wondering if there was some form of newsgroup > that I could subscribe to that would have the same > content as the mailing list, and, if so, how would I > go about setting it up. > > I know this is a very "newbie" question, but thanks > you for helping. You do not have to subscribe to a mailing list to read it. All of the mailing lists are available on the web. The "current" weeks postings for all the lists are at: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/ And if you want to read older postings, just go to the parent directory and select the year, then group, then month. http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/ There are some news servers that do mirror some of the mailing lists. This depends on your news service. Do a search of your available groups for "freebsd" and see what's available. Hope this helps a bit, Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 19:11:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from idscc05.onewest.net (idscc16.onewest.net [199.104.81.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E1D37B41B for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from terry (du212.idfl-223.onewest.net [12.7.223.212] (may be forged)) by idscc05.onewest.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g0P3BNk30771 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:11:23 -0700 Message-ID: <004501c1a555$53695620$0400a8c0@terry> From: "Terry Thomas" To: References: <20020124220833.17562.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> <200201250251.g0P2psU14890@mail.ezwv.com> Subject: Re: Newsgroups and more, oh my! Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is an excellent searchable mailing list archive at http://groups.google.com/groups?group=mailing.freebsd.questions or http://groups.google.com/groups?group=mailing.freebsd.newbies that seems to be more reachable/searchable than at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html My guess is that the freebsd-questions archive has extremely high traffic and is off-line sometimes??? But then freebsd.org also gives you the option of searching the docs too... either way all are handy when you have immediate problems that you need answers to... Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Pratt" To: "Ben P" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Newsgroups and more, oh my! > On Thursday 24 January 2002 05:08 pm, Ben P wrote: > > I'm gettig roughly 150 messages in my inbox a day. > > While I am helped by most of them, this is a > > staggering amount of email for someone who gets maybe > > an hour a day to read his email. > > > > I was wondering if there was some form of newsgroup > > that I could subscribe to that would have the same > > content as the mailing list, and, if so, how would I > > go about setting it up. > > > > I know this is a very "newbie" question, but thanks > > you for helping. > > You do not have to subscribe to a mailing list to read it. All of the > mailing lists are available on the web. The "current" weeks postings for all > the lists are at: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/ > > And if you want to read older postings, just go to the parent directory and > select the year, then group, then month. > > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/ > > There are some news servers that do mirror some of the mailing lists. This > depends on your news service. Do a search of your available groups for > "freebsd" and see what's available. > > Hope this helps a bit, > > Randy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 20:27:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from li.xdsl.ne.jp (li.xdsl.ne.jp [211.15.33.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D2B37B41C for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Geteway (xdsl046003.061200.metallic.ne.jp [61.200.46.3]) by li.xdsl.ne.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C28113C191 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:27:19 +0900 (JST) From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCIkKCReJDkkTSRDJEgbKEI=?= To: Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIiMkRyQiJCQkTjdoRGpIRyIjJCIkKCReJDkkTSRDGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJEgiIxsoQg==?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020125042721.5C28113C191@li.xdsl.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:27:21 +0900 (JST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B$44uK>$KE:$o$:$3$N%a!<%k$,FO$$$F$7$^$$$^$7$?$i$*; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobaloney.net (adsl-64-170-55-19.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.170.55.19]) (authenticated) by ns1.ns-one.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g0P4UcH04235; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:30:38 -0800 Message-ID: <3C50DF6F.D6D66A43@nobaloney.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:30:39 -0800 From: Jeff Lasman Organization: nobaloney.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerardo Enrique Paredes , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OH MY GOD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gerardo Enrique Paredes wrote: > Red Hat Linux Professional costs $199.95 x86 > > Holy sh*t, they are getting perversely greedy, I see you've found one of their less expensive packages, Gerardo. Have you looked at "http://www.redhat.com/software/database/"? Here's what you'll find: Red Hat Database $2295.00 The Open Source Database for Red Hat Linux 7.1 Powered by PostgreSQL 7.1. Look carefully. It's open source. They admit it. And they charge $2295. One of their selling points is that you can use it on multiple systems. They actually advertise that "that" means lower cost of ownership. I'm certainly not going to even attempt to justify what they do; obviously they've figured out a way to sell to corporate America while still supporting what they see in open source. Those of us who are smart enough to download the pieces and configure them together can certainly get the package free. Some replies to this thread have pointed out that you can find everything in Red Hat Linux Professional for a free download. That's not quite true; Red Hat Linux Professional 7.2 includes some packages that are NOT free or open source. For example, Red Hat Linux Professional 7.2 includes a complete Adobe Acrobat (not just the reader). That's the main reason we bought it. We're going to have a linux desktop devoted to creating .pdf files. As I've always said, I'm a tool-user. That's a good tool at a good price, for me, anyway. But just as true, you can download the two ISOs. In general server and desktop installations those are the only CD-ROMs you'll ever need. And it is open source, and it IS going to stay that way. Unless AOL buys them . What? You haven't read the rumors? Anything more that neds to be said can and should be said on freebsd-chat. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman nobaloney.net P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 voice: (909) 778-9980 * fax: (702) 548-9484 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 20:34:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from joshua.nobaloney.net (joshua.nobaloney.net [63.108.93.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F26737B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobaloney.net (adsl-64-170-55-19.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.170.55.19]) (authenticated) by ns1.ns-one.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g0P4YeH04450; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:34:40 -0800 Message-ID: <3C50E062.F405F343@nobaloney.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:34:42 -0800 From: Jeff Lasman Organization: nobaloney.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Hamell , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rick Hamell wrote: > MrK1nt@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone know a good NIC that wont give me alot headaches? While I've got no experience at all with NIC cards (I'm about to do my first freeBSD install, I was quite impressed recently to find out that SMC has 24/7 tech support. No kidding, I got someone who knew what they were doing (trying to install a DSL router) at 2 am. > Intel or Kingston. Stay away from SMC/Realtek and 3Com. Also > asking questions like this on -questions will yield better results. :) I'm absolutely willing to believe you, Rick. Can you tell us why you feel that way, though? Jeff -- Jeff Lasman nobaloney.net P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 voice: (909) 778-9980 * fax: (702) 548-9484 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 24 20:41:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from joshua.nobaloney.net (joshua.nobaloney.net [63.108.93.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE0837B416 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobaloney.net (adsl-64-170-55-19.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.170.55.19]) (authenticated) by ns1.ns-one.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g0P4fOH04830; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:41:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3C50E1F6.94869FE5@nobaloney.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:41:26 -0800 From: Jeff Lasman Organization: nobaloney.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keshav Tadimeti , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports included in ISOs? References: <002101c1a4ea$f3454430$1144a9cb@keshav> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Keshav Tadimeti wrote: > Thanks for your answers. I gather that all I do is copy the file > 4.4-install.iso for example to the CD-ROM. SO when I load the cd-rom > on to windows, I should be able to see only ONE file - 4.4-install.iso > for example. Nope. You should be able to see ... > Q: I have the standard (mini edition) for 4.3. Under WIn NT I do a dir > of F: (which is my CD rom drive containing 4.3 BSD. The output is as > follows: > Directory of F:\ > > 04/21/01 11:46a . > 04/21/01 11:46a .. > 04/21/01 04:16a 9,707 ABOUT.TXT > 04/21/01 04:16a 980 ERRATA.TXT ...... ...exactly what you see. However, whether or not your cd will boot itself, only your own experimentation will tell. If it won't, just create a boot floppy. > I got this CD-ROM from a local reseller who makes money by downloading > Linux and BSD images from the NET and burining it on CD-ROM. > How do I make the right copy? It looks right to me. > I can't boot to FreeBSD and do the CD-burning. I am a novice. > Any leads would be appreciated. If it won't boot on your system, use the tools on it to create a boot floppy. Reading "install.txt" under windows would be a good start. The "floppies" directory will probably have some floppy images and a program to use to write them. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman nobaloney.net P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 voice: (909) 778-9980 * fax: (702) 548-9484 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 2:29:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13302.mail.yahoo.com (web13302.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BF6737B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:29:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020125102946.14712.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.11.204.241] by web13302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:29:46 PST Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:29:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Mark Dupoux Subject: Re: Networking To: Jeff Lasman , Rick Hamell , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3C50E062.F405F343@nobaloney.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org never had many real problems with SMC/realtek nic's either - maybe one or 2 cards that i've seen go bad, but no more than average for any brands it could just be down to luck though Jean-Mark jmdupx_@_yahoo.com --- Jeff Lasman wrote: > Rick Hamell wrote: > > > MrK1nt@aol.com wrote: > > > > Does anyone know a good NIC that wont give me > alot headaches? > > While I've got no experience at all with NIC cards > (I'm about to do my > first freeBSD install, I was quite impressed > recently to find out that > SMC has 24/7 tech support. No kidding, I got > someone who knew what they > were doing (trying to install a DSL router) at 2 am. > > > Intel or Kingston. Stay away from SMC/Realtek and > 3Com. Also > > asking questions like this on -questions will > yield better results. :) > > I'm absolutely willing to believe you, Rick. Can > you tell us why you > feel that way, though? > > Jeff > -- > Jeff Lasman > nobaloney.net > P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 > voice: (909) 778-9980 * fax: (702) 548-9484 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 5:47: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailjaya.creighton.edu (MailjayA.creighton.edu [147.134.2.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CAC37B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 05:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu (bluejay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.20]) by mailjaya.creighton.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20107; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:46:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:46:12 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Wilmes To: Jeff Lasman Cc: Rick Hamell , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Networking In-Reply-To: <3C50E062.F405F343@nobaloney.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Jeff Lasman wrote: > > MrK1nt@aol.com wrote: > > > > Does anyone know a good NIC that wont give me alot headaches? > There was quite a long discussion (>30 posts) of this topic back in November on the freebsd-stable list. As you might expect, there were no unanimous conclusions as to what is good or bad. Good reading, though. To see the posts, check out docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2001/freebsd-stable/20011111.freebsd-stable.html and scroll to the bottom of the page. The thread is called "What NIC to choose?" Sincerely, Chris Wilmes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 6:36:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gate.tellurian.net (gate.tellurian.net [216.182.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1887E37B417 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from walt99 (unverified [216.182.21.201]) by gate.tellurian.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:36:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Sender: walterbetanc@popd.betan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:36:15 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Walter Betancourt Subject: Re: Networking In-Reply-To: <20020125102946.14712.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3C50E062.F405F343@nobaloney.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I learned the hard way, Intel works. At 02:29 AM 1/25/02 -0800, you wrote: >never had many real problems with SMC/realtek nic's > either - maybe one or 2 cards that i've seen go >bad, but no more than average for any brands > >it could just be down to luck though > >Jean-Mark >jmdupx_@_yahoo.com > > > >--- Jeff Lasman wrote: >> Rick Hamell wrote: >> >> > MrK1nt@aol.com wrote: >> >> > > Does anyone know a good NIC that wont give me >> alot headaches? >> >> While I've got no experience at all with NIC cards >> (I'm about to do my >> first freeBSD install, I was quite impressed >> recently to find out that >> SMC has 24/7 tech support. No kidding, I got >> someone who knew what they >> were doing (trying to install a DSL router) at 2 am. >> >> > Intel or Kingston. Stay away from SMC/Realtek and >> 3Com. Also >> > asking questions like this on -questions will >> yield better results. :) >> >> I'm absolutely willing to believe you, Rick. Can >> you tell us why you >> feel that way, though? >> >> Jeff >> -- >> Jeff Lasman >> nobaloney.net >> P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 >> voice: (909) 778-9980 * fax: (702) 548-9484 >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of >> the message > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! >http://auctions.yahoo.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > Walt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 8:32:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from relay05.indigo.ie (relay05.indigo.ie [194.125.133.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80C0837B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1557 messnum 1197544 invoked from network[194.196.39.50/outbound-pat-address.lotus.co.uk]); 25 Jan 2002 16:32:48 -0000 Received: from outbound-pat-address.lotus.co.uk (HELO localhost.localdomain) (194.196.39.50) by relay05.indigo.ie (qp 1557) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 16:32:48 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: keithmcd@indigo.ie To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.2" not found Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:30:28 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02012516302800.01311@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all , Does anyone out there recognise this error ? /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.2" not found I have installed 4.2-release & crypto distribution . What must I do to fix the problem ? Any help / *pointers greatly appreciated . Regards , kmcd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 8:50:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F85037B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:49:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 509BF18F5; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10018F3; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:49:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:49:17 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Jeff Lasman Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking In-Reply-To: <3C50E062.F405F343@nobaloney.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Intel or Kingston. Stay away from SMC/Realtek and 3Com. Also > > asking questions like this on -questions will yield better results. :) > > I'm absolutely willing to believe you, Rick. Can you tell us why you > feel that way, though? Which part? The nics, or asking in -questions? For the first part I've built, 100's of computers using every version of Windows, FreeBSD since 2.2.6, DOS, Novel, Lantastic, Banyan, Linux, and even Solaris on Intel. SMC, Realtek, and 3Com have consistently been the bad/troublesome cards. In fact I recently was willing to give SMC another chance, mostly because I needed one now. After three days of playing with it, I replaced it with an older Intel card, and had the system up and running with no problems within 5 minutes. 3Com... is just junk. :) The 509c and the 905B chipsets are the worst NIC chipsets ever. They don't confirm to standards very well in the first place. They tend to be like USR modems, they work great if you're attaching to the same model on the other end. As for the 2nd part, -newbies was created with the cavet that ALL technical questions be asked in the -questions group. The rational behind that was that people using FreeBSD tended to use it in production. -newbies are by definition new and may accidently give the wrong answer to a question causing lots of headaches for that person. If you all ready Sue's monthly posting or http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html you'll see way down at the bottom it explains what -newbies is for. Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 9:13:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from grlu5117.cnet.navy.mil (grlu5117.cnet.navy.Mil [160.127.129.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFBC37B42C for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from penx68322m1.cnet.navy.mil (pens0394.cnet.navy.Mil [160.125.210.190]) by grlu5117.cnet.navy.mil (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12481 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:13:08 -0600 (CST) Received: by pens0394.cnet.navy.Mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:18:29 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Burt, Randall -CONT(DYN)" To: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: A purpose and a goal (was - RE: Networking) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:18:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, so I've been a lurker on here for a while and I guess its time to chime in. Rick brings up an interesting point in that this list claims to be for newbies to discuss non-technical BSD topics. And yet, all I have seen has been "I can't get my network card working" or "PPP !!????" type stuff. How's about a discussion of BSD's value on the desktop vs. Linux, or great apps to get once you've gotten that rig up and running (using all the info you got from -questions ;))? I have gotten FreeBSD running on a spare box at work, so now what? What are the differences in the "flavors" of BSD, and which is right for me? (I seem to remember a small article on that last subject, but it wasn't very detailed) What can a lowly newbie do to help? Are there any BSD user groups similar to the LUGs that pop up everywhere? How would I get one started? Granted, everyone has been helpful and I must say that the BSD community seems a bit more forgiving, on the whole, than some of the hard-core Linux folks. However, it seems that this forum was intended to foster discussion about and around the community itself rather than solving particular configuration/installation/whatever type problems. I may be off base here, and ultimately this list is about what the user's make it, but I subscribed to this list because I expected the kind of discourse described above. RTB3 -----Original Message----- From: Rick Hamell [mailto:hamellr@heorot.1nova.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:49 AM To: Jeff Lasman Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Networking > > Intel or Kingston. Stay away from SMC/Realtek and 3Com. Also > > asking questions like this on -questions will yield better results. :) > > I'm absolutely willing to believe you, Rick. Can you tell us why you > feel that way, though? Which part? The nics, or asking in -questions? For the first part I've built, 100's of computers using every version of Windows, FreeBSD since 2.2.6, DOS, Novel, Lantastic, Banyan, Linux, and even Solaris on Intel. SMC, Realtek, and 3Com have consistently been the bad/troublesome cards. In fact I recently was willing to give SMC another chance, mostly because I needed one now. After three days of playing with it, I replaced it with an older Intel card, and had the system up and running with no problems within 5 minutes. 3Com... is just junk. :) The 509c and the 905B chipsets are the worst NIC chipsets ever. They don't confirm to standards very well in the first place. They tend to be like USR modems, they work great if you're attaching to the same model on the other end. As for the 2nd part, -newbies was created with the cavet that ALL technical questions be asked in the -questions group. The rational behind that was that people using FreeBSD tended to use it in production. -newbies are by definition new and may accidently give the wrong answer to a question causing lots of headaches for that person. If you all ready Sue's monthly posting or http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html you'll see way down at the bottom it explains what -newbies is for. Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 11: 0: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe16.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ABA37B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:59:54 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [213.122.148.117] From: "S Roberts" To: Subject: re: Compatible Modem? 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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1A5D2.70851690-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 11:38:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B98837B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16UCBP-0003FB-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:38:43 +0100 Received: from [217.5.15.33] (helo=hivi) by mrvdom00.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16UCBP-00087Y-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:38:43 +0100 From: "Alex Huth" To: Subject: Routing trouble Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:49:28 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiu guys! I thought i have experience in routing but it doesn´t seem so. I have a box with an ISDN card and an ethernet interface. I set up ISDN and wrote a script to set up the isdn interface and routing, like the following: in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig ep0 "inet 192.168.100.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig isp0 "inet 192.168.1.2 123.123.123.123 netmask 255.255.255.255 link1" I wrote a script like this ifconfig isp0 delete link1 ispppcontrol isp0 myauthproto .... route add default -interface isp0 When I reboot the isdnmonitor shows the connect and the idletime is also working. But if i try to ping or nslookup the outside there is no route to host. The routingtable looks a little bit strange: default 0:0:0:0:0:0 isp0 192.168.100 ep0 192.168.1.2 217.12.32.34 isp0 (after connect, because dynamic) 192.168.100.2 link1 So where is the problem and how can i resolve it? Thanks a lot Alex Huth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 12: 3: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F412937B416 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (polytarp@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0PJtPg58692 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:55:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from polytarp@m-net.arbornet.org) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: Phil Green To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Hi! I am for to new! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Can to go to for to me from to you for to help to speak the Unix? Thanks, I await in response. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 12:14:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from corten2.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC1F37B402 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from corten10.billschoolcraft.com ([192.168.7.10] helo=corten10) by corten2.billschoolcraft.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16UCjy-0003V1-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:14:26 -0800 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:14:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: To: S Roberts Cc: Subject: re: Compatible Modem? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (SunOS 5.8 Ultra-5_10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Fri, 25 Jan 2002 it looks like S Roberts composed: > Hello, > > Is anyone out there able to point me to where I can find documentation on what modems (external or otherwise) are compatible with FreeBSD at this point, please? http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html Click on "VIEW Full Table." -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 12:54:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F91C37B446 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B5B6718F4; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE67C18F3; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Alex Huth Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please ask technical questions in -questions. That is what it is for. -newbies is for NON-technical questions only. See http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html for more information Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 15:35:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-131.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217A737B417; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A1FD66B74; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:35:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:35:38 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "keithmcd @ indigo. ie" Cc: questions@freebsd.org, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.2" not found Message-ID: <20020125153538.D70000@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <02012516302800.01311@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sgneBHv3152wZ8jf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <02012516302800.01311@localhost.localdomain>; from keithmcd@indigo.ie on Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:30:28PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:30:28PM -0500, keithmcd @ indigo. ie wrote: > Hi all , >=20 > Does anyone out there recognise this error ? >=20 > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.2" not found >=20 > I have installed 4.2-release & crypto distribution . >=20 > What must I do to fix the problem ? Upgrade to a later release of FreeBSD (4.2 contains libssl.so.1), or use an earlier version of the software which is built for 4.2. kris --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8UevKWry0BWjoQKURAmS1AJ9aym4QI1J4sWtqIokGzRMnfhbSsQCgvfru 5jbth7tN9EjaaqqWg0vQc1Y= =PFcS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 19:10:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C3037B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0Q3A1506423 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201260310.g0Q3A1506423@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 26 8:30:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04EF437B416 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (202.1.200.119) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2002 16:30:24 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "'S Roberts'" , Subject: RE: Compatible Modem? Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 21:30:00 +0500 Message-ID: <000c01c1a686$be754730$77c801ca@warhawk> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Short answer: Internal modems bad, external modems good. Long(er) answer. I've experienced nothing but misery with internal modems. Even the old-school isa non-pnp ones...not worth the extra headaches..External modems, on the other hand, just plugem in, point fbsd to the right port, and away you go! I've had good luck with D-link and 3Coms. Although my 3Com (quite a new model, not sure which) does not have a telephone out to plug a phone in. Annoying, but works otherwise. Cheers. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of S Roberts Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:00 AM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: re: Compatible Modem? Hello, Sorry if this has been discussed to death here, but I tried google as well and the online docs, but couldn't find any definitive answers. Is anyone out there able to point me to where I can find documentation on what modems (external or otherwise) are compatible with FreeBSD at this point, please? Thanks for any assistance offered. Regards, Stacey _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 26 9:30:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851DC37B416 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from attbi.com ([12.254.218.32]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020126172958.VTHZ10199.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@attbi.com>; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:29:58 +0000 Message-ID: <3C52E793.F654B8C@attbi.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:29:55 -0700 From: Joe Warner Organization: nunyabiz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Haikal Saadh Cc: 'S Roberts' , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible Modem? References: <000c01c1a686$be754730$77c801ca@warhawk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A6088D5A91B613707003BF51" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------A6088D5A91B613707003BF51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll second this. In my experience, configuring internal modems to work with FreeBSD have been difficult, if not (in some cases) impossible. This isn't to say it can't be done, especially by somebody who has sufficient experience. However, for the newbie who wishes to connect to the net in the least amount of time possible, I also highly recommend using an external modem. I once spent two weeks trying to configure a US Robotics internal PCI modem under FreeBSD 4.2 and finally gave in to the recommendation of others and bought/configured a US Robotics external 56K modem. I had everything working in less than 20 minutes. Now, I'm using a Cable modem, which was even easier to configure and I don't plan on going back to dial-up any time soon. ;-) Cheers Joe Haikal Saadh wrote: > Short answer: > Internal modems bad, external modems good. > > Long(er) answer. > > I've experienced nothing but misery with internal modems. Even the > old-school isa non-pnp ones...not worth the extra headaches..External > modems, on the other hand, just plugem in, point fbsd to the right port, > and away you go! I've had good luck with D-link and 3Coms. Although my > 3Com (quite a new model, not sure which) does not have a telephone out > to plug a phone in. Annoying, but works otherwise. > > Cheers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of S Roberts > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:00 AM > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: re: Compatible Modem? > > Hello, > Sorry if this has been discussed to death here, but I tried > google as well and the online docs, but couldn't find any definitive > answers. > > Is anyone out there able to point me to where I can find documentation > on what modems (external or otherwise) are compatible with FreeBSD at > this point, please? > > Thanks for any assistance offered. > > Regards, > > Stacey > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Joe Warner Daemon News Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ BSDMall http://www.bsdmall.com --------------A6088D5A91B613707003BF51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll second this.

In my experience, configuring internal modems to work with
FreeBSD have been difficult, if not (in some cases) impossible.
This isn't to say it can't be done, especially by somebody who
has sufficient experience.  However, for the newbie who
wishes to connect to the net in the least amount of time possible,
I also highly recommend using an external modem.  I once spent
two weeks trying to configure a US Robotics internal PCI modem
under FreeBSD 4.2 and finally gave in to the recommendation of
others and bought/configured a US Robotics external 56K modem.
I had everything working in less than 20 minutes.

Now, I'm using a Cable modem, which was even easier to configure
and I don't plan on going back to dial-up any time soon.  ;-)

Cheers

Joe
 
 
 

Haikal Saadh wrote:

Short answer:
Internal modems bad, external modems good.

Long(er) answer.

I've experienced nothing but misery with internal modems. Even the
old-school isa non-pnp ones...not worth the extra headaches..External
modems, on the other hand, just plugem in, point fbsd to the right port,
and away you go! I've had good luck with D-link and 3Coms. Although my
3Com (quite a new model, not sure which) does not have a telephone out
to plug a phone in. Annoying, but works otherwise.

Cheers.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of S Roberts
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:00 AM
To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
Subject: re: Compatible Modem?

Hello,
       Sorry if this has been discussed to death here, but I tried
google as well and the online docs, but couldn't find any definitive
answers.

Is anyone out there able to point me to where I can find documentation
on what modems (external or otherwise) are compatible with FreeBSD at
this point, please?

Thanks for any assistance offered.

Regards,

Stacey

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  --------------A6088D5A91B613707003BF51-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 26 11:40:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20604.mail.yahoo.com (web20604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 951CC37B416 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:40:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020126194032.58203.qmail@web20604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.65.146.6] by web20604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:40:32 PST Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:40:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Mr. Darren" Subject: ftp bounce To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to find a way to give users access to ftp sites they wouldn't normally have access to without giving out a username/pass. having them authenticate to me, then download directly from the ftp of their choice(as per not to cause for excess bandwidth). does this make sense, anybody have any ideas how I might accomplish this or something similar? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 26 12:21:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from post.cis.smu.edu (post.cis.smu.edu [129.119.64.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204D137B41B for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by post.cis.smu.edu (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #26) id ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:21:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:21:37 -0600 (CST) From: John C Lamoreaux Subject: Re: Compatible Modem? To: Joe Warner Cc: Haikal Saadh , 'S Roberts' , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3C52E793.F654B8C@attbi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've never had even a spot of trouble with a USRobotics external 56k. Four entries in ppp.conf and you're up and running. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 26 14:12:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net (smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net [64.8.50.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A594D37B402 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from BradMorgan ([68.64.130.28]) by smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GQKGCE00.LW0 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:12:14 -0500 From: "Brad Morgan" To: Subject: RE: Compatible Modem? Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:12:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've never had problems with my internal modems, but I'll only buy internal modems that configure as a serial port. I have many USRobotics and Hayes modems that have worked quite nicely with Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD. I don't agree with the general statement: internal = bad, external = good. I will agree that external modems have a higher success ratio than internal modems, mostly because Winmodems poison the internal pool. Regards, Brad To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 26 20:56:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21005.mail.yahoo.com (web21005.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4013E37B402 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:56:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020127045610.700.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [137.132.3.8] by web21005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 04:56:10 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 04:56:10 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tadimeti=20Keshav?= Subject: checksum calculation To: newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I have downloaded Disk 1 and Disk 4. I want to know if I have downloaded the right file sizes. So I downloaded the file CHECKSUM.MD5. Q: How do I use it to verify the file size? Thanks all... With regards Keshav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 26 21:10:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330F037B423; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 21:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6B5D7A8E; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-01-06 - 2002-01-26 Message-Id: <20020127051004.E6B5D7A8E@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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