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Date:      Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:14:24 +0000
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Kurt Jaeger <pi@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r383978 - head/multimedia/handbrake
Message-ID:  <20150414081424.GA35984@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20150414075025.GB39658@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
References:  <201504140613.t3E6D48n077306@svn.freebsd.org> <20150414062552.GA1692@FreeBSD.org> <20150414073653.GH1017@f10.opsec.eu> <20150414074646.GA29265@FreeBSD.org> <20150414075025.GB39658@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:50:26AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 07:46:46AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > Seriously though, gtk20 is being far better than gtk3 ATM.  gtk3 is slow
> > and crappy, and just one major regression compared to gtk20 (with a few
> > exceptions like touch devices support).
> > 
> > Some projects that had switched to gtk3 at first later regret this
> > decision and returned under gtk20 sanity.
> 
> Beside a lot of complains about gtk3 most projects using gtk2 aims at
> switching to gtk3 :)

I hope they reconsider; Audacious' example [1] should be studied and lesson
learned.  If you cannot stay with gtk20 (the are very few technically sound
reasons, but let's assume you *are* unhappy with gtk20) then switch to Qt,
or FLTK, Motif, etc.  Going gtk30 is troublesome for developers and quite
rude for users.

> This storry sounds pretty much like the old time of gtk1 -> gtk2

Not really; gtk20 did bring several substantial improvements over gtk12;
most notably UTF-8 and better rendering support, antialiased fonts, more
useful widgets.  It was noticeably slower than gtk12, but not even close
to the point when it becomes annoying.  (Plethora of warnings that start
flooding your terminal window when you run most GTK+ applications is more
annoying.)

gtk30 is mostly uncalled for, except for gestures/multitouch support; yet
its poor performance multiplies everything by zero.

./danfe

[1] http://redmine.audacious-media-player.org/boards/1/topics/1269



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