From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 21 16:03:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C0E16A4B3 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1664400B for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3D2BC0C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:03:36 +1000 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 744FF518EC; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:33:34 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:33:34 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Yannick Van Osselaer Message-ID: <20030921230334.GJ37917@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200309210950.05195.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> <200309211714.26791.yannick.vanosselaer@pi.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309211714.26791.yannick.vanosselaer@pi.be> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it true that Microsoft uses BSD's Stack? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:03:40 -0000 --Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 21 September 2003 at 17:14:11 +0200, Yannick Van Osselaer wrote: > On Sunday 21 September 2003 16:50, Jonathan wrote: >> Hi: >> >> I came across this statement while looking for info on why desktop >> software can be so buggy: >> >> Excerpt: >> "How many non-technical people know that, at least as far as I know, one >> of the primary reasons Microsoft's NT and Win2k etc. actually works and >> remains stable on a LAN is that they used the BSD TCP/IP code. How >> pathetic it is that Microsoft, with all their billions, can't write >> clearly defined protocol stack software, uses open-source BSD's, and >> then spends millions trying to stymie open-source software! " >> >> From: >> http://anumail1.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2002-August/020463.html >> >> Is this true? That the Win 2000 and NT machines uses BSD code? > > Yes, it's true. At least for the TCP/IP network stack. No, it's not true. For a while we thought it was, but we proved to be incorrect. Microsoft's network stack was written by a Scottish company called Spider. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/bi5GIubykFB6QiMRAphWAKCKxEf9fKV0/+LFtlqBbJEmwjfrhgCfb/rt wBKfLpJtv3yittz9CAZjoTw= =17xc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL--