From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 1 14:37:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA6037B401 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F143E6E for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:37:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B0A3BF3A4 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:37:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Mb8355793; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:37:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:37:29 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Fred Clift , Subject: Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0 In-Reply-To: <15810.64745.425793.33748@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20021101151718.U7968-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > One cannot make an alpha kernel fit on a floppy alongside the loader > unless one removes nearly all drivers (including disk drivers), NFS, > IPV6, etc,etc. I'm probably mistaken, but dont most people not use IPV6 or NFS for booting? I can see how the disk drivers would be necessary :). I'm doing my own empirical tests with a somewhat purged GENERIC kernel right now - dont get me wrong -- I believe that it's hard, but well, shrug. So are there other options for building the floppy? like I see all the 'platform' options e.g. options DEC_ST550 # Personal Workstation 433, 500, 600 Does this platform code take up a lot of space? 10 or 12 different floppy images could be made, each with support for only one platform for intace... I'm not totally familiar with the boot-system and how install floppies are put together, but could many of the drivers be loaded as modules from another floppy? On the other hand, I'm not _that_ attached to floppy boots -- I can live without them, but it will be a hassle for me upon next install -- I have neither floppy nor CD rom right now... > > > > Are there other options? > Netbooting. So how does netbooting work on alphas? Is there somewhere I can go read about it? Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message