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Date:      Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:40:29 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Stephen GL <kansas_le@yahoo.com>
To:        AT Matik <asstec@matik.com.br>, freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org
Cc:        Stephen GL <kansas_le@yahoo.com>
Subject:   Re: Allow only match both mac address and IP address
Message-ID:  <984691.90507.qm@web56809.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <200709071454.07445.asstec@matik.com.br>

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Thanks to Chris and JM, I did check the pair of IP and MAC right
now.

My office has a small group of spoofer, so far they are IP address
spoofer, which is already blocked as they has invalid MAC Address.
It's funny if you see them right now, keep thinking why I can't get
through. I realize that one day, soon they will become an expert of
IP and MAC Address spoofer. For Windows users, SMAC is too easy to
find. I don't want they laugh at me, as they laughed at me when I
only block the IP address alone.

Is there another (additional) way that IPFW can check against fake
interface? Don't tell me about OS fingerprint, I know that it's
in fact changeable by known valid user. And also the CGI login,
some valid user I know in fact is friend of spoofer.

Stephen

AT Matik <asstec@matik.com.br> wrote: On Friday 07 September 2007 13:53:05 Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Stephen GL wrote:
> [ ... ]
>
> > I am very new about IPFW. I'm in FreeBSD 6.0.
> > My job is pass anyone that has a valid both MAC and IP address.
> > Beginning of my rule I check the valid MAC address that can get through.
> > If pass, the next rule is check the IP address.
> > If pass, he/she can get through.
> >
> > Everything is work as expected. My problem is the above rules doesn't
> > check both MAC and IP address pairing.  Assume someone spoof other MAC
> > address, they can pass by changing the IP address of another.
>
> The way to deal with people who screw up your network by spoofing the MAC
> and IP address of another machine is to fire them or drop them as a
> customer, depending on the relationship.
>

a completely brilliant solution, technically brilliant, administrationally 
brilliant,  please accept my admiration ...

but we want the customer's money and not drop them man ...


> However, if you really need to provide IP access to people whom you can't
> trust not to play such games, consider switching to something which
> requires authentication, such as PPPoE.

that then cost money for password capslock/lost/forgot/change support ... and 
cost bandwidth overhead or the costumer get less bandwidth as supposed to


back to the point, you need to run your server as bridge then you can drop 
traffic which is not an authorized mac/ip pair as in

deny ip from any to any src-ip ${ip} layer2 not MAC any ${mac} recv ${nic}


JM









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