From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 19:17:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A515F106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B1C8FC1B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5BJHIbP084377; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:17:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5BJHE5M084374; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:17:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:17:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Kris Moore In-Reply-To: <4FD60AA1.3090403@pcbsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20120610140407.62ad9de8.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FD60AA1.3090403@pcbsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What still requires HAL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:17:19 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Kris Moore wrote: > I'm going to be playing with removing HAL support in PC-BSD here in the > near future. We've created our own auto-mounting GUI application, which > works regardless of the DE being used. Plus mav@ has created some > patches he will be hopefully be putting into HEAD soon, which does > CD/DVD insert notification / polling for devd. With this in place I'm > not sure what else HAL would be needed for. Does Xorg still use it for > anything, like mouse detection? Not with AutoAddDevices off, or even better, with xorg-server built with HAL disabled. But that's just X. DEs have other requirements. xfce doesn't require it if the options are disabled in x11-wm/xfce4-session and devel/gvfs.