From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 15 16:33:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4904F16A416 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02BA043D55 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:33:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 25686 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2006 16:33:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (67.32.30.240) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2006 16:33:55 -0000 In-Reply-To: <200609151616.k8FGG23C065997@fire.jhs.private> References: <20060909182831.GA32004@FS.denninger.net> <200609100159.k8A1xAIn089481@drugs.dv.isc.org> <450AA29D.9000700@cs.tu-berlin.de> <200609151616.k8FGG23C065997@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6218828A-2540-47F4-A888-03821F97E113@hackmiester.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:33:52 -0500 To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:33:58 -0000 On 15 September 2006, at 11:16, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Stable is a misnomer that harms FreeBSD somewhat. A promoter of > FreeBSD I know has long encouraged people to upgrade from release > to stable. Some don't & won't realise Stable is Not necessarily > Stable, & may get burnt. Much of the world speaks English only as > a 2nd language. They won't benefit from the double trouble of > foreign + weird BSD geek speak: "Stable isn't Stable ? Yes or No !" > "It's stable, but it's OK to crash ? - I'll go Linux !" > > Imagine a boat labelled Stable: It sinks. The designers claim: > "Tough! We left the Application Interface (routes to bars & toilets) > stable, but changed other stuff. Hey ! Stable never meant Stable ! This is the perfect explanation. Thank you for putting what I am trying to say in words so well. :-) > > It'd be some work to eradicate the misnomer, but the name's perhaps > less entrenched than one might guess, eg: > ftp ftp.freebsd.org > cd /pub/FreeBSD > dir > lrwxr-xr-x 1 ftpuser ftpusers 19 Mar 24 14:58 FreeBSD- > stable -> branches/4.0-stable > cd FreeBSD-stable > 550 No such directory. > -- > Julian Stacey. BSD Unix C Net Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen http:// > berklix.com > Mail Ascii, not HTML. Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. > Don't buy it ! Get it free ! http://berklix.org/free-software > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) yknow when you go to a party, and everyones hooked up except one guy and one girl and so they look at each other like.. do we have to? intel & nvidia must be lookin at each other like that right now Phone Voice: +1 251 589 6348 Fax: Call the voice number and ask. Email General chat: hackmiester@hackmiester.com Large attachments: hackmiester@gmail.com SPS-related stuff: hfuller@stpaulsmobile.net IM AIM: hackmiester1337 Skype: hackmiester31337 YIM: hackm1ester Gtalk: hackmiester MSN: hackmiester@hackmiester.com Xfire: hackmiester