Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:51:08 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pentium lockup fix in FreeBSD Message-ID: <5222.879472268@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:43:50 MST." <199711140143.SAA11955@rocky.mt.sri.com>
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> There was no mention of 'newsgroups' in Sean postings, so how were we to > know that is where this discussion between Sean and you took place. The > first I heard about it was your last email to me. I hardly see how that's relevant since you just refused to read it there in any case, so what good would it have done for Sean to mention it anyway? You'd have simply refused to read it earlier is all. :) > And, if you're going to make policy decisions that affect alot of users, > discussion on Usenet are *NOT* the place to make them. I'm not making policy decisions. I was suggesting to Timo, before Sean dragged this into -hackers, that we should proceed carefully and not just blindly adopt the first hack to drop into our hands. I never said that we weren't going to fix the problem at all and I never said that it was something that FreeBSD didn't care about, I simply said that BSDI's withdrawal of their fix was suspicious and that David had reviewed the Linux fix and deemed it a disgusting hack. I then went on to say that there seemed to be a lot of scare-mongering about this particular bug considering that it was hardly the only possible DoS attack on a shell account machine. I don't see how you or Sean can equate this with "Jordan says that FreeBSD could give a shit." What Jordan is saying is that FreeBSD could stand to wait a couple of more days to see Intel's work-around and it wouldn't result in the collapse of western society as we know it. Clearly there are some here, however, who feel that it's the worst bug they've ever seen and that FreeBSD as a project will end in disaster and disgrace if we don't rush to fix it in the next 24 hours, and to that all I can say is "sheesh!" Jordan
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