From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 19:44:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAF61065672; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41058FC12; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 952EC46B0D; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 113108A02E; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Sp=F6rlein?= Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:44:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110617; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20111007141312.GJ26743@acme.spoerlein.net> <201110101301.37276.jhb@freebsd.org> <20111011192125.GF26743@acme.spoerlein.net> In-Reply-To: <20111011192125.GF26743@acme.spoerlein.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201110111544.27591.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Cc: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, doceng@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Conversion to SVN X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:44:29 -0000 On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:21:25 pm Ulrich Sp=F6rlein wrote: > On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 13:01:36 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > Also, I think the discontinuous history idea is a compelling reason to = not put > > the doc/www history into source svn. Right now svn changes move forward > > continuously with time (so change N + 1 is "newer" than change N), but > > importing doc+www history as changes that are subsequent to the current= top of > > tree would break that. >=20 > And? Seriously, does anything depend on that? Sure the "50k revision > number bump" is not exactly nice, but I honestly don't see a problem > with it. Humans depend on it. =20 > > OTOH, renumbering the current tree to put the doc+www > > history in the "right" place is simply not workable now. Importing doc= +www > > into the current SVN is something that would have needed to be done dur= ing the > > initial CVS -> SVN conversion, but that ship has sailed. >=20 > What's sad is, that there never will be a final VCS for FreeBSD. So > while currently all commit messages that refer to some RCS revisions are > rather useless, there will come a time, post-SVN, when all references to > SVN revisions are useless. People importing from our svn into another system will get massive, massive confusion if we renumbered our depot. That is why we can't renumber it at this point. =2D-=20 John Baldwin