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Date:      Tue, 23 Apr 2002 02:35:03 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
To:        Rafter Man <rafter@linuxmail.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD LIST <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.Org>
Subject:   Re: [security] Re: Mysterious sshd "starting itself" at bootup
Message-ID:  <20020423023045.G16227-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020422094515.7442.qmail@linuxmail.org>

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Rafter Man wrote:
> Maybe it is just me, but for security reasons I think that it should only be possible to start services

Do you mean for security reasons or for "neatness" on the system?

> from 1 file/place at bootup. So that you in /boot have a directory for the system bootup files (all for them) and one for user and other (programs and services) bootup files. This way ALL the boot files and in /boot and services like FTP, SMTP, SSH, HTTP can not be started by system files, but only by user/other files.

This sounds interesting.  I never liked the idea of a directory being
called "/etc" because it sounds like a bunch of leftovers were tossed in
there, (etc sounds like misc, or other etc... hehe)

> Likewise I think that there should be a /etc/services directory with underdirectories like: /etc/services/ftp and ALL the configuration files for ftp should be there, but maybe I am the only one who likes it when things are sooooo simple.

/etc/services is a file, as in a text file.  There is a file called
/etc/ftpusers which may be what you wish for?

> I am VERY pleased to see that FreeBSD 5.0 have put some order in the FreeBSD filesystem, but
> I still think there are to many exampels for configuration files not "in place". Meaning
> that in order to setup (fx) sendmail, you have to studie which bootfiles it writes to and
> where it put all it's own configuration files, things could be a lot easier if all were in
> "the right place".
> So when you install a service, fx sendmail files go here:
> /boot/services/sendmail.sh (if the files is a script then run it)
> /etc/service/sendmail/ all sendmails configuration files
> /usr/services/sendmail/ all sendmails other files.

IBlameSendmail :)  It is just too complicated and hairy.

> Or is this just plain dumb?
> /rafter
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