From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 29 12:23:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831C11055C8C for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [88.98.225.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17C4C7F3A5 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from crayon2.yoonka.com (crayon2.yoonka.com [10.70.7.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w6TCNtZT092654 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:23:56 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List From: Grzegorz Junka Subject: How to debug ZFS boot on UEFI? Message-ID: <4a382c1b-8785-c01b-b8bd-83894883c935@gjunka.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:23:55 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB-large X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:23:58 -0000 Hi, I've followed (more or less) this thread: http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=10444 I have two disks nvd0 and nvd1 with three partitions on each: efi, freebsd-swap and freebsd-zfs. I've created the ZFS pool and installed FreeBSD manually (because on nvd1 I have also a few partitions used by Windows). On nvd1p1 I've created the hierarchy of files as outlined in the post: efi/boot/BOOTx64.efi (copied from /boot/boot1.efi boot/loader.rc (with the content as outlined in the post) In UEFI boot menu I can see all partitions (Windows, UEFI shell, UEFI USB stick for 11.2, and the one I created). Booting from any partition works apart from the one I created - when that partition is selected UEFI shows a black screen for a second and then goes back to the boot menu. How can I debug what's wrong? Thanks GrzegorzJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 01:14:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0681068EE8 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 01:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357B9822FD for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 01:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2942EA3BEC; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 01:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w6U1E9oX036164; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 21:14:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w6U1E9h2036161; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 21:14:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 21:14:09 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: Grzegorz Junka cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: How to debug ZFS boot on UEFI? In-Reply-To: <4a382c1b-8785-c01b-b8bd-83894883c935@gjunka.com> Message-ID: References: <4a382c1b-8785-c01b-b8bd-83894883c935@gjunka.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 29 Jul 2018 21:14:09 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 01:14:11 -0000 On Sun, 29 Jul 2018, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > Hi, > > I've followed (more or less) this thread: > > http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=10444 > > I have two disks nvd0 and nvd1 with three partitions on each: efi, > freebsd-swap and freebsd-zfs. I've created the ZFS pool and installed FreeBSD > manually (because on nvd1 I have also a few partitions used by Windows). On > nvd1p1 I've created the hierarchy of files as outlined in the post: > > efi/boot/BOOTx64.efi (copied from /boot/boot1.efi > boot/loader.rc (with the content as outlined in the post) > > In UEFI boot menu I can see all partitions (Windows, UEFI shell, UEFI USB > stick for 11.2, and the one I created). Booting from any partition works > apart from the one I created - when that partition is selected UEFI shows a > black screen for a second and then goes back to the boot menu. > > How can I debug what's wrong? > > Thanks > GrzegorzJ Did you try verbose boot? If you get nothing from that as far as I can tell that means the code in the firmware did not find any thing to transfer control to. I could never get beyond that point. When I was trying to do this on an HP. I followed Warren Block's script on doing this with gpart and shell commands. The script: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_booting_with_uefi gives a clear definition of what the disk layout should be and what the contents of the EFI partition should be. Checking that against what you have would be a good first step. I did a dual boot on my laptop following this script: http://kev009.com/wp/2016/07/freebsd-uefi-root-on-zfs-and-windows-dual-boot/ I never got FreeBSD to boot on the laptop without using refind. If you do a windows install of refind that is the first thing invoked. That might solve your problem. For me it just worked after I finally got all the pieces in place I know this did not answer your question, if this get a response from any UEFI experts, look forward to that, the best I can do is to share my experience. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 02:14:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A411045139 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x434.google.com (mail-wr1-x434.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::434]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C741683BE2 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x434.google.com with SMTP id r16-v6so11010969wrt.11 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=n3lZfW1oTp6hwqE7+JC1xn8DMsGVgGqC3hvTSk1irEU=; b=lncC4y/zu6Qp5EeusZ/QaoxFYYTSauGae6dQ0HvoaNHNuGCfxFJ7lGYdZpWNwSLAdE S0aLLDbPhjHLvTsdfwokIQfEdaxNk5MZPcYGV7JYBJ8K9qSKK9T7+A7/SkZ3RUdDko1p UQcKIzUwb4yGuaX0lvuQWmqRHwGMMBDOI6TI5p78gjubxNo6pTvmenZGtTbC5o2PPe5u XnW7ofodajHgNzUpFGZqVtUVbRJEIcWvuM/KKZoWVFQoWIux/upOdBoScWwa1vd3mIxW rd3UPqezwirHJSsvWNGphmJtr0FUFrE6kdeUbEPJnbWBpeetTEdrcxnFRP1USSlxru/R +7+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=n3lZfW1oTp6hwqE7+JC1xn8DMsGVgGqC3hvTSk1irEU=; b=d1bybg2oNRfSaO7ZCP0JePwlwL5DBr7TPUYScTXx6P6ya1u2HFYAbnopbZFVrai3ap 8xiABnKOluOLgaGbHWArneqn6G+i+7HTMt7sHdMeZPnoFm5G2UDTxN0wxfUZ8ACjW+mv SlEV3SseAYSBjMyGCQlVdold6GFpmw9lgJ/5ZNp/q/OF5nIZIJ2LRyRKpiCqfZRN3TTu phx6+adLKM+5ztOLu/pJN6QRKaIdOGG/3JRe+CC3Y38QbrRxwIaxeYyoAwcpCPwyIreU iqVWyHQLfidC7KB8ycUEs9Np0gEYT1RaG+ogmIs8AIqU1XXsjeZrEdB2HeWOslxJgq6A NQQw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHrFGc+mzgV2Ijgujnl87rk1pI4MAVO6fyQmZ1ap/zo2q97uhc5 LAnMH8TDsxVR7OMceWzcysCUP4Wokk5v+zTitnvM6G1E X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeoXJ4eYl1x8yuLvzPAF7zj/2h7gK+odqbi4kwP+yK9q0SpGxFEEkWe24lvKfU895Yf84FPUV7JmczPfUjod2s= X-Received: by 2002:adf:c684:: with SMTP id j4-v6mr15697970wrg.243.1532916885033; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:14:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:adf:e20c:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:14:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: acme.sh question and potential site slowness To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:14:47 -0000 Hello, I'm using acme.sh from ports on freebsd 11.1.I've deployed a wildcard certificate but my site seems to load slower. It's a perception thing. Can someone take a look at these commands for generating and installing the certificate make sure I didn't miss something? Thanks. Dave. acme.sh --issue --dns dns_linode --dnssleep 900 -d example.com --ecc -d '*.example.com' --keylength ec-384 --ocsp acme.sh --installcert -d example.com --ecc --cert-file "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/server-ec384.crt" --key-file "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/privssl/server-ec384.key" --ca-file "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/cacert.crt" --fullchain-file "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/fullchain.crt" --reloadcmd "sudo service apache24 reload && sudo dovecot reload && sudo postfix reload" apache https configuration: ServerName www.example.com ServerAlias webmail.example.com:80 ServerAdmin webmaster@example.com DocumentRoot /usr/vhosts/example.com/temp LogLevel info RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off RewriteRule (.*) https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI} [QSA,L,R=301] Options None AllowOverride None Require all granted ServerName www.example.com:443 ServerAlias webmail.example.com:443 ServerAdmin webmaster@example.com DocumentRoot /usr/vhosts/example.com/temp LogLevel info Options None AllowOverride None Require all granted SSLEngine on SSLCertificateFile "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/server-ec384.crt" SSLCertificateKeyFile "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/privssl/server-ec384.key" SSLCertificateChainFile "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/fullchain.crt" SSLCACertificateFile "/usr/local/etc/ssl/acme/example.com/cacert.crt" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 09:56:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688A41051065 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 09:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDCD1910AF for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 09:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fk4uz-0006TC-F4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:56:45 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fk4uz-0003Zk-Bk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:56:45 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:56:45 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: drill && DNSSEC Message-ID: <20180730095645.GA11644@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 09:56:56 -0000 Hello, Our FreeBSD handbook explains in https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-dns.html how to setup DNSSEC for a local DNS caching server. I uses, for example: $ drill -S FreeBSD.org @10.23.47.18 ;; Chasing: freebsd.org. A Warning: No trusted keys specified DNSSEC Trust tree: FreeBSD.org. (A) |---freebsd.org. (DNSKEY keytag: 18501 alg: 8 flags: 256) |---freebsd.org. (DNSKEY keytag: 60160 alg: 8 flags: 257) |---freebsd.org. (DS keytag: 60160 digest type: 2) |---org. (DNSKEY keytag: 1862 alg: 7 flags: 256) |---org. (DNSKEY keytag: 9795 alg: 7 flags: 257) |---org. (DNSKEY keytag: 17883 alg: 7 flags: 257) |---org. (DS keytag: 9795 digest type: 2) | |---. (DNSKEY keytag: 41656 alg: 8 flags: 256) | |---. (DNSKEY keytag: 19036 alg: 8 flags: 257) |---org. (DS keytag: 9795 digest type: 1) |---. (DNSKEY keytag: 41656 alg: 8 flags: 256) |---. (DNSKEY keytag: 19036 alg: 8 flags: 257) You have not provided any trusted keys. ;; Chase successful Note: The trusted keys (flag -k ....) weren't provided. How one gets valid trusted keys? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ 📱 +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 15:13:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAF510594C5 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (vm1982.osfux.nl [79.99.187.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B90DA76017 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2C220292 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:12:53 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=osfux.nl; s=default; t=1532963575; bh=8BHb2K9iiGfRxzV2D+mkoeO/558Pi1udWIWWadLIn7M=; h=From:Subject:To:Date; b=aE/VzOFtAGOQusZDYEnC/H88wcbXNw+NJBv/S3vTQbTKN7UGACqG5beI2qcMedATu 1qDsot+9r0kImesdpI6gRvqdG50gqgevvfy/5mL0wIT0eHl0WWUC4MsCX0veKKN+Ef afQap1NR+9L+D9FXZfK/Xp9qYapZIOy1aXymDtN5QChUyTvM3+t0g5fzHm2bYbKxxw pzEHp2t2VUNQ2t5am07Cvz6lxjj6ZvR7Gr7YtbrnI38LP1Us++nKzAV9q7Rar9Cy9W mEohKOHllIVa1BPpqNkg8ZD54idPtI3qB4EIdPutXBVxP2nlUxifHxlV505bVgZKv7 9FHr6m0rZGp4whE3F3xkrCDM/w4sCBDbCRohI4kuabwZstHjdifts2cbPvakJCpr2C 1JOsVuutlmlfUkBAvFAqvMaA9Ffl+xbxmDO7WMeKPZz5s8X4Rd6vmiLZ0PqnkhfYhS WSAxp2+TkHN61eRuNtlapGhhWMzXoYoXY+A05RSW1RxDH6RlWlaDktUk3Ot5wBGVKm 4KLPwMbJqkSDwhd6ap3CQ/2KOyW8b3uEQJtVRLAnfWkK6Ka24HAFade4wFaE4pwNff P+9rUuLmwIugX5DFSs93csGPzrEluK9Q/Kitj6utC/jj98pNTU2zmeSdi598aLo/rL PWqM1rVlkiOGgXDp57YyxlGw= Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943AC2022F for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:12:49 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=osfux.nl; s=default; t=1532963572; bh=8BHb2K9iiGfRxzV2D+mkoeO/558Pi1udWIWWadLIn7M=; h=From:Subject:To:Date; b=MKHxDNtruSDLdYawIhxRETSeXsOmBr5Y3skTBFUeE1j249Nw4IRCyfDrdpujV6TF/ gUE86E6vn0cXQxQNjj4GEJCnL1ktCOquTAX6Jy/3dt5CuIAYALXBUuB1XyPIsGup0P xr4lC6WgQ7//ZYxIpxVZjmOHg8LQjwPXQPUZbpCrW7Gq384i6Rb/LgsNrOCyORsu8r 9UbhCgZjarSu/1dCr+h2EPTvxFhs2dpd3YZHNnfY/3irlva+qVMjedoYzWmmmEUYH5 K1+4VPurzMz9T917Vjy9fg9hPgzaFct9lfj3llMl/SrVe9NzEXR51H6wYLarK1bKTi QBSmj8X52CNWmt6zAbxHh8OzDayZOw2GK8/TrqdA3RKcclduC2WRkqOHLsw0w3w4OQ ed3V2LCNdtRUK+dWwbPg+Sf/YI41wWCS4XpOtYVQkHDVAwqA9JXli/jSrxOAVctFtl j3iCizxO4RLtHECXDNJGuwaGi1vNrxrvQyM0otCDfcd4rpqJCqNnH1+RYszGVZs1kk yvT9SxoFrtWNygDSpF4bwAOVd7icv9tAcLA+SvbQWf//0QANlb8R5RmERD/HpiCLhy sVZoR0R/QXsflG7J8ewa8Zi4JmZwn4SG34ItrX5LfcmtRa9+NkrXgUvCKsSa/ak3Ii +w7207Cw7sh6V/jh9kmcLVao= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on vm1982.osfux.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [172.28.10.134] (engineering.quanza.net [91.208.87.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:12:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Ruben Subject: newsyslogd / pflogd : daily logfiles for pf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:12:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:13:33 -0000 Hi List, I'm running PF on some FreeBSD 11.x installs and I would very much like to have daily logfiles containing the entries that land up in the pflog device. I'm having trouble switching from "max size" rotation to "once a day, regardless of size" rotation. My pflog entry in /etc/newsyslog.conf looked like this: /var/log/pflog      600  3    100    @T00 JB    /var/run/pflogd.pid and after my attempted change now looks like this: /var/log/pflog      600  30    *    @T00 JB    /var/run/pflogd.pid but no new /var/log/pflog.0.bz2 files are created anymore. If I run the newsyslog binary manually like this : /usr/sbin/newsyslog -vCF then the /var/log/pflog.* are created / rotated. Could somebody perhaps shed some light on what I'm doing wrong here? Any help appreciated! 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On 07/30/2018 08:12 AM, Ruben wrote: > > Hi List, > > > I'm running PF on some FreeBSD 11.x installs and I would very much > like to have daily logfiles containing the entries that land up in the > pflog device. I'm having trouble switching from "max size" rotation to > "once a day, regardless of size" rotation. > > > > My pflog entry in /etc/newsyslog.conf looked like this: > > /var/log/pflog      600  3    100    @T00 JB    /var/run/pflogd.pid > > > and after my attempted change now looks like this: > > /var/log/pflog      600  30    *    @T00 JB    /var/run/pflogd.pid > > > but no new /var/log/pflog.0.bz2 files are created anymore. If I run > the newsyslog binary manually like this : > > /usr/sbin/newsyslog -vCF > > then the /var/log/pflog.* are created / rotated. > > > Could somebody perhaps shed some light on what I'm doing wrong here? > > > Any help appreciated! > > > Kind regards, > > > Ruben > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 16:14:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7162E105AC5A for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AF0C78837 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from [192.168.3.57] (p5496E1D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.150.225.208]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E08843C06D6 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:14:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Philipp Vlassakakis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Multiple Repositories in Poudriere: Best Practice? Message-Id: <3099777A-A349-43F1-9E86-31AA6FE1E204@lists.vlassakakis.de> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:14:29 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:14:38 -0000 Hi, what is the best way to manage multiple PHP, MariaDB and Postgresql = Versions within Poudriere? Build a Repository for each =E2=80=9Epackage=E2=80=9C (nginx + php70 + = MariaDB 102 + PGSQL 10? / apache24 + php71 + MariaDB 10.3 + PGSQL 10...) = or build every port in one big repository and install the needed = packages via pkg? I'm not sure if the PHP modules will run under different PHP versions = without recompiling. (As far as I know, the Extensions API does not = differ between php 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2, but I'm not sure.) Does anyone know that? Regards, Philipp= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 18:33:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87069105DC6C for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [88.98.225.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C31B7F0CB for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from ultrabook.yoonka.com (x52716320.dyn.telefonica.de [82.113.99.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w6UIXevW020988 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:33:40 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) X-Authentication-Warning: msa1.earth.yoonka.com: Host x52716320.dyn.telefonica.de [82.113.99.32] claimed to be ultrabook.yoonka.com Subject: Re: How to debug ZFS boot on UEFI? To: doug@safeport.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <4a382c1b-8785-c01b-b8bd-83894883c935@gjunka.com> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:33:35 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB-large X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:33:49 -0000 On 30/07/2018 01:14, doug wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2018, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've followed (more or less) this thread: >> >> http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=10444 >> >> I have two disks nvd0 and nvd1 with three partitions on each: efi, >> freebsd-swap and freebsd-zfs. I've created the ZFS pool and installed >> FreeBSD manually (because on nvd1 I have also a few partitions used >> by Windows). On nvd1p1 I've created the hierarchy of files as >> outlined in the post: >> >> efi/boot/BOOTx64.efi (copied from /boot/boot1.efi >> boot/loader.rc (with the content as outlined in the post) >> >> In UEFI boot menu I can see all partitions (Windows, UEFI shell, UEFI >> USB stick for 11.2, and the one I created). Booting from any >> partition works apart from the one I created - when that partition is >> selected UEFI shows a black screen for a second and then goes back to >> the boot menu. >> >> How can I debug what's wrong? >> >> Thanks >> GrzegorzJ > > Did you try verbose boot? If you get nothing from that as far as I can > tell that means the code in the firmware did not find any thing to > transfer control to. I could never get beyond that point. Thanks for your prompt response. I will try the rest of your advice when I get back to my computer, but in the meantime can you please tell me how to verbose boot? As a side note, when I initially installed FreeBSD using mirror ZFS and guided installation the zdb label ended up on /dev/nvd0 device. When I installed the pool manually from shell it ended up on the /dev/nvd1p3 device. I actually had problem with recognizing the correct pool in the installer until I force-cleared zfs label from nvd0. I would like to try to move the zdb label from nvd1p3 to nvd0 to see if that makes any difference. Could be that the ZFS efi loader doesn't see ZFS properly until it's labelled on the main device rather than on a partition (I don't know much about ZFS labels). Is that possible? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 18:43:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751A4105E0F4 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (vm1982.osfux.nl [79.99.187.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CA717F763 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE6F20375; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:14 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=osfux.nl; s=default; t=1532976195; bh=LcszDtCAwwCQiMn3bO8BGyjXW4+kTtIQl87xYRW580A=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=EWV/idZyLGeGCkIiJiKa3yVNrcEetx9IsDC+ownIbgt+7+nY7NgNsuVDJkghbog6m moSLRiAumMZP+U9qc00ECLxs5Y6l51EGGKM18xN83JWvOGiTJ0DFL2DhaCuFUHY3w7 BOxsi6qNhB+Sr8Ng0AJ4FIEGjpItBu7MwqxCmDQvAfur84kUs6jpzRNT1p/uEFH+hL evj3MNaXhs4b59SXnH5NTrFQqg/EL/itsda5cnbpJvfNXCS2u4RDIWFpc3J4CqixFf bwo7NOwW9frisWkhoZPOn4hmhW7Pov/LZMZ8jnKHTCKENePtKkoqPnqy3tmXEUvqRg 6+iL0yfRMxXK4df1rgEVZWvgdU1Csdxk4MgfvpV8JOOVOvG9/3D7Ad7ZvE1vz4hhyG R6OfoPL6fvNam0h2+1hzfyJvtwfq6r8GF9Az42chSt8QYh/WkUhs5wrErlc6fVhPQE GcIKn7p2XIWXfVUG6Ptc7/l34Kv3Fyvu+6QRsSigcbmQvckYaa63wYkxeMkDHKuQlZ zVLfcxS1g5hu+brkLUvEEOVE8NcRRlZ9b7DlqIa5cjOa/oPMIZZHeodIXpKqdR3bQl cmcAoz5zst4M8GIIJjXnl+VKSfidomeaZ6kR8NYKOfPbaq2u7XUPMDZ+D/eIEpusJI JeIq+gPfG2og2vvg1ZA94PWs= Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A7B20292; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:10 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=osfux.nl; s=default; t=1532976194; bh=LcszDtCAwwCQiMn3bO8BGyjXW4+kTtIQl87xYRW580A=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hmMWMYxVxZog7mrkrDmpJL8gh584/MyMXYDApjxDpzgP8TnO64Am6cZd4EuGuZvqo 7g/37qFwBnJRxHBPNuYQqZlChS9giP3uOcKjWX3rZlCCJ13jyHOK9NoNwBL7WUO25E Y8aZgLq0SnqRSKu9aknWpsTVQ78CdTnUv/tgc/ztFCrcciIEqIHyF3oMrBH4lvcJZ8 2FOSxkBeLOhq1QVObF++fm9IB2y4fAtNQj5YlkI9NY/eyIfYWkVBSkaX//pzer+fhS 8SQH4o8bS7WpTBd00NlruZ1UtWsOaWwBLAVdqYYVvXVxFeasWTn5S80MSHniyCnWbt yeL1TFhVtKW7HrL7bfMyR+ft8zQvrVxCGlfEoMweFCAdx7PytVUn2nMo3gNOpkdlfx b4NOPsD5fyt3EFDMFvkb3vlrMoSayjKpWV8H1x3kOtfT7JCDzKGow+k/lQxuHqJJKH DBUqG2v/C3Wm1FuTORqABevDX9snvOalKdosxT7xPDuikDJkQQAFEvXgoE4TlT+U6C UQIXT7dC811Gw+PWw2Puo+GOemzlAd6Rv/m01v7Ypc9IWJcA6xCJcmZWVzmHj9pCYg e62nfgbE5Ktg38BDcJ4PyGpmo4UbyajyiVY2tbgNDT4uK25FroIYCfMVIxn89xX9Gs e3ilT6TFtXN+VGIeusBIt6gs= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on vm1982.osfux.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [192.168.9.77] (ip51ccb320.speed.planet.nl [81.204.179.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: newsyslogd / pflogd : daily logfiles for pf To: Motty Cruz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6e807b65-4cb0-d70a-3d16-d816d3bced21@gmail.com> From: Ruben Message-ID: <651653d0-d0eb-85bf-b516-331bccb4e696@osfux.nl> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6e807b65-4cb0-d70a-3d16-d816d3bced21@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:43:47 -0000 Hi Motty, On 07/30/2018 05:27 PM, Motty Cruz wrote: > Hi Ruben, not sure if it would be of any help, this is how I rotate logs > in newsyslog.conf > > /var/log/sftp.log            600  7     *    @T00  JC > /var/log/ftp.log            600  7     *    @T00  JC > > regardless of size. Thank you for your examples, but my problems seem specific for pflogd (I don't have problems rotating other logfiles) I'm affraid :( Kind regards, Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 20:10:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D605F105FC85 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CD5B82615 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w6UKAS1d096434; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:10:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:10:28 -0400 (EDT) From: DTD To: Grzegorz Junka cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: How to debug ZFS boot on UEFI? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4a382c1b-8785-c01b-b8bd-83894883c935@gjunka.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:10:29 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:10:36 -0000 On Mon, 30 Jul 2018, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > On 30/07/2018 01:14, doug wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018, Grzegorz Junka wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've followed (more or less) this thread: >>> >>> http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=10444 >>> >>> I have two disks nvd0 and nvd1 with three partitions on each: efi, >>> freebsd-swap and freebsd-zfs. I've created the ZFS pool and installed >>> FreeBSD manually (because on nvd1 I have also a few partitions used by >>> Windows). On nvd1p1 I've created the hierarchy of files as outlined in the >>> post: >>> >>> efi/boot/BOOTx64.efi (copied from /boot/boot1.efi >>> boot/loader.rc (with the content as outlined in the post) >>> >>> In UEFI boot menu I can see all partitions (Windows, UEFI shell, UEFI USB >>> stick for 11.2, and the one I created). Booting from any partition works >>> apart from the one I created - when that partition is selected UEFI shows >>> a black screen for a second and then goes back to the boot menu. >>> >>> How can I debug what's wrong? >>> >>> Thanks >>> GrzegorzJ >> >> Did you try verbose boot? If you get nothing from that as far as I can tell >> that means the code in the firmware did not find any thing to transfer >> control to. I could never get beyond that point. >> > Thanks for your prompt response. I will try the rest of your advice when I > get back to my computer, but in the meantime can you please tell me how to > verbose boot? An option on the boot menu. It may be possible to set something in one of the /boot conf files. If so, I do not know how. My experience when getting a error because the EFI boot was not recognized was to make sure the file that was there was what the docs and experts said should be there. And then to return the failing hardware and try again. I had this luxury because I was getting a new system to be used on our internal network. Dell just worked, legacy or uefi. > As a side note, when I initially installed FreeBSD using mirror ZFS and > guided installation the zdb label ended up on /dev/nvd0 device. When I > installed the pool manually from shell it ended up on the /dev/nvd1p3 device. > I actually had problem with recognizing the correct pool in the installer > until I force-cleared zfs label from nvd0. My one ZFS install was a gift (Dell just worked). I have never done a ZFS manual install. In both those cases I picked apart the guide and modified it to do a UFS install. On the install I did it gave me a choice of disks. In my case the PC had a SSD with Windows and another disk. So I installed on the empty disk. > I would like to try to move the zdb label from nvd1p3 to nvd0 to see if that > makes any difference. Could be that the ZFS efi loader doesn't see ZFS > properly until it's labelled on the main device rather than on a partition (I > don't know much about ZFS labels). Is that possible? I would still hope for more knowledgeable responders here. My assumption as noted if you get an error prior to running in FreeBSD, the firmware was not happy. This is one reason refind might be a good solution, dual boot or not. What PC will not boot Windows? My understanding of refind is that it gets control first and then it knows how to boot whatever. My Lenovo install worked that way for sure. As to ZFS, I bought this last PC and John Lucas's book to learn about it. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 31 01:44:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5941C10698B2 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 01:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3B57322E for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 01:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.100.1 for FreeBSD at relay.sibptus.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40066914; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:44:03 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w6V1i2bh001391; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:44:02 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w6V1hx8u001376; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:43:59 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:43:58 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: sergio lenzi Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 01:44:07 -0000 sergio lenzi wrote: > > sergio lenzi wrote: > > > Well, you can always go back to the reliable gnome2 now AKA mate > > > you can use our "distribution" with more than 1800 packages for > > > amd64, > > > > > > Does your mate distribution support user swithing (please see the > > first mail in the thread)? If it does, what display manager does your > > mate distribution depend on? > > > > > Hello... > the user switching is done not in the gdm, but inside the mate under > the "system tab in the" panel, that in this version (1.20) is not > avaiable, but > I will check the code, may be an option in the consolekit can make it > show up.... Any news? > but if you log out, from mate, you can choose some options in the gdm > login, as language, xdmcp, ... The idea is that a second (third etc) user should be able to login without the first user logging out (and closing all her programs thereby), as available on Linux and Windows ("logoff" vs "switch user"). > the switching you are looking for was available on mate 1.12 I > think... > > the distribution uses GDM 2.18.9 with the full gdmsetup & friends... > On NetBSD we use gdm 2.20.11 that is quite the same one... and yes, > we have mate 2.19 on NetBSD-8.0 for raspberry pi. Am I right that gdm is the absolute requirement for user switching to work, no other display manager can do that? And while we are at it, I have a couple of questions on Mate (now I have mate-1.18.0 from the vanilla FreeBSD packages): 1. How do I totally disable all volume automounting in Mate/Caja? I'm quite happy with the system automonter and don't need no gvfs and other userland mounts (even more because they don't support Cyrillic filenames correctly). 2. The sound control app in Mate is completely unrelated to the real sound system of FreeBSD (as of 11.2 and mate-1.18.0). The volume and input/output controls do nothing. I have to use the good old /usr/sbin/mixer and "sysctl hw.snd.default_unit" to manipulate with sound. Is this my misconfiguration or Mate's fault? Thanks in advance for any advice. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 31 10:41:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCAA105547E; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 586CA840DE; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F42821C47; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 06:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 31 Jul 2018 06:41:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; bh=jgWSuDk6w7G1EtDVhtvuDyHaxMTUIDA67msZLglXhXc=; b=PqNQaq/h hwNYFG9JrHU1U00XK1BkRYLB28kfZPFTnmmQZQx4j/D/End38XRlY2dP8U4L2IYT fHuI1kvrynpget9egYFYHTKqaQbiUjrfL/9Hg2NhB22k/nWPHN+S9kkAbbp7jHhv l/o2iN5Q3MUAlf2qKL+jPsWb0E6qpr2NnzkdnvNvRLI9sXoqZPUbV7Mii54JRHZ0 LWP3aCuNB6YW2rhv5ScvrEa97ruJT8c1Yobj7R8pPiMlTKBwsH+JXmnjZBZUvN4O z3kn6KlAtQRixMtG3aeLplRLl6BP9hHXp2V9FhpRnnpjbXBdPW5yc2pqjvMeGFsR 8icm02yjv/GebQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=jgWSuDk6w7G1EtDVhtvuDyHaxMTUI DA67msZLglXhXc=; b=ELYnYOliIV6+mo7MvacmUtMzulcT7ljosyElVQDuZgV2t 6dPGu4Nb4AO275iLU6X1SnJIS5pOPDRTI0k83GZ0ZftY2SWuxzBnjw4whXDoCHWA Bu3JeN1dBw2tj1/0hmfulP4PLbQKYwOOwVetgummDFG5hBt1D0hshz0RnFp5/r4w WECNYaRtXaW2PEbF8+z31qOB6rAuiUvDV+fTXEgH6d4t2S/QfgA1Qnb+2pGE8sN8 L6+PLGUTy17nxZ4NKuS5k4LjtH47d9aetCuQ0tFA5DSwuWm3uzPFi97qxFbkmrMk D4Pc/kv1SmGiKJMqQXTZ/ND2W4+O4tpJczSD98V2g== X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from desktop.local (parsley.growveg.org [82.70.91.97]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A51211026B; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 06:41:18 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current From: tech-lists Subject: how to make ports not install xorg or dependencies Organization: none Message-ID: <703ec31c-a798-68c6-c9fa-4d73bce50be2@zyxst.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:41:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:41:20 -0000 Hello, context: freebsd-12 r336215 arm64 I don't want xorg or X11 or any of its components installed on this system. I install ports in the traditional way, in other words cd port && make config && make install. Any ports that in a generic config want to install xorg libs, I want the no-x11 variant. There used to be a way to enforce this no-xorg in make.conf but looking at /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf I can find no reference to X Xorg x11 or xorg. I presume there's a new method. If there is, can anyone please tell me how? thanks, -- J. 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Kind Regards, *Mary Johnson * [image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 31 10:49:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728051055A33; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2ECE8477C; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41ftVT4kwvz6dVQ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:49:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GP8N408Eqh-n; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:49:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marvin.madpilot.net (host109-130-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [87.20.130.109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:49:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: how to make ports not install xorg or dependencies To: tech-lists , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD Current , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <703ec31c-a798-68c6-c9fa-4d73bce50be2@zyxst.net> From: Guido Falsi Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=mad@madpilot.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBE+G+l0BCADi/WBQ0aRJfnE7LBPsM0G3m/m3Yx7OPu4iYFvS84xawmRHtCNjWIntsxuX fptkmEo3Rsw816WUrek8dxoUAYdHd+EcpBcnnDzfDH5LW/TZ4gbrFezrHPdRp7wdxi23GN80 qPwHEwXuF0X4Wy5V0OO8B6VT/nA0ADYnBDhXS52HGIJ/GCUjgqJn+phDTdCFLvrSFdmgx4Wl c0W5Z1p5cmDF9l8L/hc959AeyNf7I9dXnjekGM9gVv7UDUYzCifR3U8T0fnfdMmS8NeI9NC+ wuREpRO4lKOkTnj9TtQJRiptlhcHQiAlG1cFqs7EQo57Tqq6cxD1FycZJLuC32bGbgalABEB AAHNHkd1aWRvIEZhbHNpIDxtYWRAbWFkcGlsb3QubmV0PsLAeQQTAQgAIwIbAwIeAQIXgAUL CQgHAwUVCgkICwQWAgMBBQJS79AgAhkBAAoJEBrmhg5Wy9KTc0kH/RO64ORBlTbTHaUaOj8F Je5O5NU2Pt9Cyt5ZWBRvxntr1zPTJGKRPS9ihlIfqT4ZvEngQGp57EUyFbCpI0UWasTerImM tt5WACnGmCzUTB39UXx8Oy4b1EgWeTJQ747e/F1mQLXTNa6ijRBE9fYlTb4gAkPN88/wVV9v 3PZozKLTg16ghBzHM/P7Lk8L7clPEZChX1FTa/6eSt3nvzfCuTMZbBPJF/ph+q1KyPqRgVfh tyhu5dvgMoPz/ni41IfeSrkJTD5RXzdyGR9q4Z1NYeBsLkRjC4LxKAP5KqUsvlOUjKvO1byj ApYdMarol+IGkaSk9e3zVYAJkWKjn/ni8XbOwU0EUxB7QQEQAKFhrDceoPdK/IHDSmoj6SQY isvM7VdhcleS7E9DoEAVt7yMbf6HbbMVTTY6ckvwTWQssywLBXNVqxgc4WLJjzfUhgef+WE7 5M3+WFYlOVQLGZY/zEVgma1raYnOHNAOzeHLDmEXjbZP6vGAeDyBbGfQPpE7qGYZ7ubeT3Xw QO+PklcCrvOPj2ZPcAxGNS2xVU/LzONqCrJqLMJSIcCdsbiSP4G5PnDFHtMokaTY6OEr8OEQ fOAerhcHUa/z7Uu8YtmaqKH+QGkE/WEgaRqSiTnv0JOTD+DxehaqvoKPPZ++2NpCZMHB2i6A /xifmQwEiIjEXtcueBRzkNUQkxhqZyS13SrhocL9ydtaVPBzZatAEjUDDEJmAMLVFs45qfyh MiNapHJo2n3MW/E5omqCvEkDdWX/en3P7CK2TemeaDghMsgkNKax/z0wNo5UZCkOPOz0xpNi UilOVbkuezZZNg65741qee2lfXhQIaZ66yT7hphc/N/z3PIAtLeze4u1VR2EXAuZ2sWAdlKC NTlJMsaU/x70BV11Wd/ypnVzM68dfdQIIAj1iMFAD/lXGlEUmKXg5Ov2VQDlTntQoanCYrAg +8CttPzjrydgLZFq3hrtQmfc0se5yv1WHS69+BsUOG09RvvawUDZxUjW19kyeN9THaNRgow3 kSuArUp6zSmJABEBAAHCwF8EGAEIAAkFAlMQe0ECGwwACgkQGuaGDlbL0pMN5wgA4bCkX/qw EVC06ToeR6C2putmSWQMgpDaqrv65Hubo+QGmg2P4ewTYQQ4g6oYWS03qHxqVVWhKz7FjfrV +dH8qbCLfSgIcvdBha7ayGZVrsiuMLKGbw36fcmkZPpSDOfHcP0XH8Z+u9CWj0xUkTxAlZ/7 i6gYSUpG2JWNtdmE/X8VVEyXusCLwy0K0BI60A/4dRTIX3C4QKrJ3ZbUXegz70ynjHf+lQMZ 9IZKASoRMuS5FozPQh6abvmwZEPdf5I9riUElzvHrqJ8Bx0t3Pujdoth+yNHpnBxrtO8LkQd rQ58P0SwcaIX33T2U9pG8bhu5YVR88FQ8OQ0cEsPBpDncg== Message-ID: <1d971811-95eb-efa9-af2a-c9fb5a3b5313@madpilot.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:49:35 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <703ec31c-a798-68c6-c9fa-4d73bce50be2@zyxst.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:49:39 -0000 On 7/31/18 12:41 PM, tech-lists wrote: > Hello, > > context: freebsd-12 r336215 arm64 > > I don't want xorg or X11 or any of its components installed on this > system. I install ports in the traditional way, in other words cd port > && make config && make install. Any ports that in a generic config want > to install xorg libs, I want the no-x11 variant. > > There used to be a way to enforce this no-xorg in make.conf but looking > at /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf I can find no reference to X Xorg > x11 or xorg. I presume there's a new method. If there is, can anyone > please tell me how? You can add OPTIONS_UNSET+=X11 in make.conf. ports having an X11 option will have that disabled by default. There is no warranty no port will have X11 dependencies anyway, it's not mandatory to respect that knob. -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 31 10:51:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A4D1055AFB; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17023849F4; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41ftXP0bWGz6dVQ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:51:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eWJQW70RVhCM; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:51:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marvin.madpilot.net (host109-130-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [87.20.130.109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:51:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: how to make ports not install xorg or dependencies From: Guido Falsi To: tech-lists , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD Current , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <703ec31c-a798-68c6-c9fa-4d73bce50be2@zyxst.net> <1d971811-95eb-efa9-af2a-c9fb5a3b5313@madpilot.net> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=mad@madpilot.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBE+G+l0BCADi/WBQ0aRJfnE7LBPsM0G3m/m3Yx7OPu4iYFvS84xawmRHtCNjWIntsxuX fptkmEo3Rsw816WUrek8dxoUAYdHd+EcpBcnnDzfDH5LW/TZ4gbrFezrHPdRp7wdxi23GN80 qPwHEwXuF0X4Wy5V0OO8B6VT/nA0ADYnBDhXS52HGIJ/GCUjgqJn+phDTdCFLvrSFdmgx4Wl c0W5Z1p5cmDF9l8L/hc959AeyNf7I9dXnjekGM9gVv7UDUYzCifR3U8T0fnfdMmS8NeI9NC+ wuREpRO4lKOkTnj9TtQJRiptlhcHQiAlG1cFqs7EQo57Tqq6cxD1FycZJLuC32bGbgalABEB AAHNHkd1aWRvIEZhbHNpIDxtYWRAbWFkcGlsb3QubmV0PsLAeQQTAQgAIwIbAwIeAQIXgAUL CQgHAwUVCgkICwQWAgMBBQJS79AgAhkBAAoJEBrmhg5Wy9KTc0kH/RO64ORBlTbTHaUaOj8F Je5O5NU2Pt9Cyt5ZWBRvxntr1zPTJGKRPS9ihlIfqT4ZvEngQGp57EUyFbCpI0UWasTerImM tt5WACnGmCzUTB39UXx8Oy4b1EgWeTJQ747e/F1mQLXTNa6ijRBE9fYlTb4gAkPN88/wVV9v 3PZozKLTg16ghBzHM/P7Lk8L7clPEZChX1FTa/6eSt3nvzfCuTMZbBPJF/ph+q1KyPqRgVfh tyhu5dvgMoPz/ni41IfeSrkJTD5RXzdyGR9q4Z1NYeBsLkRjC4LxKAP5KqUsvlOUjKvO1byj ApYdMarol+IGkaSk9e3zVYAJkWKjn/ni8XbOwU0EUxB7QQEQAKFhrDceoPdK/IHDSmoj6SQY isvM7VdhcleS7E9DoEAVt7yMbf6HbbMVTTY6ckvwTWQssywLBXNVqxgc4WLJjzfUhgef+WE7 5M3+WFYlOVQLGZY/zEVgma1raYnOHNAOzeHLDmEXjbZP6vGAeDyBbGfQPpE7qGYZ7ubeT3Xw QO+PklcCrvOPj2ZPcAxGNS2xVU/LzONqCrJqLMJSIcCdsbiSP4G5PnDFHtMokaTY6OEr8OEQ fOAerhcHUa/z7Uu8YtmaqKH+QGkE/WEgaRqSiTnv0JOTD+DxehaqvoKPPZ++2NpCZMHB2i6A /xifmQwEiIjEXtcueBRzkNUQkxhqZyS13SrhocL9ydtaVPBzZatAEjUDDEJmAMLVFs45qfyh MiNapHJo2n3MW/E5omqCvEkDdWX/en3P7CK2TemeaDghMsgkNKax/z0wNo5UZCkOPOz0xpNi UilOVbkuezZZNg65741qee2lfXhQIaZ66yT7hphc/N/z3PIAtLeze4u1VR2EXAuZ2sWAdlKC NTlJMsaU/x70BV11Wd/ypnVzM68dfdQIIAj1iMFAD/lXGlEUmKXg5Ov2VQDlTntQoanCYrAg +8CttPzjrydgLZFq3hrtQmfc0se5yv1WHS69+BsUOG09RvvawUDZxUjW19kyeN9THaNRgow3 kSuArUp6zSmJABEBAAHCwF8EGAEIAAkFAlMQe0ECGwwACgkQGuaGDlbL0pMN5wgA4bCkX/qw EVC06ToeR6C2putmSWQMgpDaqrv65Hubo+QGmg2P4ewTYQQ4g6oYWS03qHxqVVWhKz7FjfrV +dH8qbCLfSgIcvdBha7ayGZVrsiuMLKGbw36fcmkZPpSDOfHcP0XH8Z+u9CWj0xUkTxAlZ/7 i6gYSUpG2JWNtdmE/X8VVEyXusCLwy0K0BI60A/4dRTIX3C4QKrJ3ZbUXegz70ynjHf+lQMZ 9IZKASoRMuS5FozPQh6abvmwZEPdf5I9riUElzvHrqJ8Bx0t3Pujdoth+yNHpnBxrtO8LkQd rQ58P0SwcaIX33T2U9pG8bhu5YVR88FQ8OQ0cEsPBpDncg== Message-ID: <68cef083-a3d1-88f0-941c-441f5b2ba164@madpilot.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:51:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1d971811-95eb-efa9-af2a-c9fb5a3b5313@madpilot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:51:18 -0000 On 7/31/18 12:49 PM, Guido Falsi wrote: > On 7/31/18 12:41 PM, tech-lists wrote: >> Hello, >> >> context: freebsd-12 r336215 arm64 >> >> I don't want xorg or X11 or any of its components installed on this >> system. I install ports in the traditional way, in other words cd port >> && make config && make install. Any ports that in a generic config want >> to install xorg libs, I want the no-x11 variant. >> >> There used to be a way to enforce this no-xorg in make.conf but looking >> at /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf I can find no reference to X Xorg >> x11 or xorg. I presume there's a new method. If there is, can anyone >> please tell me how? > > You can add OPTIONS_UNSET+=X11 in make.conf. > > ports having an X11 option will have that disabled by default. > > There is no warranty no port will have X11 dependencies anyway, it's not > mandatory to respect that knob. > I was too hasty in hitting send. There are other options which influence X11 dependencies. I usually also disable XPM and CUPS at least. It also depends on which ports you are installing. -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 31 11:13:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A200E10566BE; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=JK01=KP=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EF1A85A55; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=JK01=KP=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E9828416; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 13:13:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from illbsd.quip.test (ip-86-49-16-209.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.16.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0DBCA28412; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 13:13:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: how to make ports not install xorg or dependencies To: tech-lists , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current References: <703ec31c-a798-68c6-c9fa-4d73bce50be2@zyxst.net> From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Message-ID: <8265d700-9f0f-d2a5-a2c8-96ad4dd2e8b2@quip.cz> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 13:13:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <703ec31c-a798-68c6-c9fa-4d73bce50be2@zyxst.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:13:35 -0000 tech-lists wrote on 2018/07/31 12:41: > There used to be a way to enforce this no-xorg in make.conf but looking > at /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf I can find no reference to X Xorg > x11 or xorg. I presume there's a new method. If there is, can anyone > please tell me how? We are using OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 GUI CUPS DOCS EXAMPLES NLS for all of our packages (built with poudriere) As Guido Falsi already said it is not guaranteed that you will not have ports with some X libs, because some ports does not have option to disable X11 dependencies. Miroslav Lachman From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 31 17:56:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB851106027C for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 590EE74A5E for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.64.203]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MgaRP-1fZNPh2aBj-00O2ID; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:56:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:56:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: sergio lenzi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-Id: <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JrH1Ffvv6kPtdy0prfYj//kmXJc1MPTR2idxmDcUv2Q0J5E8Ys8 EYwGJXJVhnll9xl4uY7qLvbUxUjQD79leOn5nNDhSXFfF95M1h3BI152wjWgF7GMNBA8hQ3 5vwaG827emhY5C92RzoScoEMLOT1qD65ZpIwLlHeeyhz/K5IAngd9qKcePKaym2xTXX1mU/ gEe2xho0zXvWV/xwnLwTg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:p/p3UIjkngg=:Mu/WRNYxHCHh9tjrd3lGuu pqc90CIXHsUF6urOiGzjcMU8zIBGiOrdH9ol80HhS/FjhMnh+AFja3R1Be9hFE8bhqKsY0ZRj ks3wlrwyyn4fz5aeRsHqcEaRKkhHqG9pmQPxgca+A0O9vJwxktVQpJdpWY9ezd4vLTZxICgfy LNv1xuuOuP44YgZSDbS/H4HWTXkr2sClaqkvAQ8MJ2I3mT/WOtQ9x363cvTo3wa6/RPQkiymZ NK+pPKJ9NEtr1ja+OtZdFESMDsiP2uUhgMt87MgbgZuoaNPMmxsPMyKzGCL3KxmcgOtyNaijO WMPtDNJ/+kzswe6yWy5aYxHkLungIX3DJq5au6LUd/lcsJdV5NwsK01CnXq1AkL/IInbvRia+ PPlgKugE0Rjg0CPLP1AqrjFXHyRHiCXAbMHlDbONfMaAkHPyz+EHzxK9kKVhvfgAlxD/vYegN khVH3baOg99RknfLUs8xBs68lguNcRAHceXQHN+qEssZdu3/jwB4YL53xvhhCGfvy0lIEkOa+ 2pP0+zJ6r7aVdjMnhd4QrVy/6yOw7ZhlgeX2ChrFZyJjiiX9cnUUlYHI6vB0hxvsZDF3M0Ox7 QFJoptBnLSGiK2IQqsJ0U0jJfHCWXOIgYvEsQ1nITBh/RA+the6CAbm7N3WYR0bgSoYh01l3J E6RJ6/B6A+kaJOsO6ohkgqbRCUZOsCqMrN2sUoAApYnc7yq+RbTpLc7suA6A48IoWrLdTUH91 neK7OtRb1VVbFuon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:56:27 -0000 On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:43:58 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > sergio lenzi wrote: > > > sergio lenzi wrote: > > > > Well, you can always go back to the reliable gnome2 now AKA mate > > > > you can use our "distribution" with more than 1800 packages for > > > > amd64, > > > > > > > > > Does your mate distribution support user swithing (please see the > > > first mail in the thread)? If it does, what display manager does your > > > mate distribution depend on? > > > > > > > > Hello... > > the user switching is done not in the gdm, but inside the mate under > > the "system tab in the" panel, that in this version (1.20) is not > > avaiable, but > > I will check the code, may be an option in the consolekit can make it > > show up.... > > Any news? > > > but if you log out, from mate, you can choose some options in the gdm > > login, as language, xdmcp, ... > > The idea is that a second (third etc) user should be able to login > without the first user logging out (and closing all her programs > thereby), as available on Linux and Windows ("logoff" vs "switch > user"). This kind of session management was first prominently introduced on Mac OS X (early v10). > > the switching you are looking for was available on mate 1.12 I > > think... > > > > the distribution uses GDM 2.18.9 with the full gdmsetup & friends... > > On NetBSD we use gdm 2.20.11 that is quite the same one... and yes, > > we have mate 2.19 on NetBSD-8.0 for raspberry pi. > > Am I right that gdm is the absolute requirement for user switching to > work, no other display manager can do that? It is a combination both of the desktop environment being able to store program states (which programs opened, with which files, in which state) and restore them again, maybe like a form of "memory to file and back". Gnome 2 could do this in combination with gdm. While the gnome session was responsible for the storing / restoring part, gdm would do the login of a different user, and also keep track of users still logged in (in "stored state"). As Mate and Cinnamon claim to be Gnome 2 forks, it's at least left to imagination that they should also include this kind of functionality. > And while we are at it, I have a couple of questions on Mate > (now I have mate-1.18.0 from the vanilla FreeBSD packages): > > 1. How do I totally disable all volume automounting in Mate/Caja? I'm quite > happy with the system automonter and don't need no gvfs and other > userland mounts (even more because they don't support Cyrillic > filenames correctly). There is a gvfs configuration entry (via gconf2, if I remember correctly) that lets you select which devices or filesystem types to mount or _not_ to mount. This is a convenient way to suppress all automounting via the system (GUI + gvfs). In the past, I had the exact opposite problem: I _wanted_ to use the automounter from Gnome, but it didn't always work. Gnome's automounter relies on HAL, so maybe changing the HAL configuration is also a way to deal with it. So fiddling with HAL, fighting system permissions from devfs.conf and devd.conf, creating a "umount wrapper" which also calls media eject for optical devices, and even adding a desktop icon "USB unmount" were required to make it _partially_ work... >From https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html you can check questions 2, 3, and 6. > 2. The sound control app in Mate is completely unrelated to the real > sound system of FreeBSD (as of 11.2 and mate-1.18.0). The volume and > input/output controls do nothing. I have to use the good old > /usr/sbin/mixer and "sysctl hw.snd.default_unit" to manipulate with > sound. Is this my misconfiguration or Mate's fault? Is it using the wrong mixer? Can you select a different mixer device for the Gnome / Mate mixer control? I fully understand that most GUI software is ported from Linux, it's not a native BSD development result, so maybe it expects some ALSA instead of the standard OSS... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 1 02:43:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399D106D657 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 02:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA32A8F3D2 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 02:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.100.1 for FreeBSD at relay.sibptus.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40067756; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:43:28 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w712hRY1026352; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:43:28 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w712hOKg026350; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:43:24 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:43:24 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Cc: sergio lenzi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 02:43:31 -0000 Polytropon wrote: [dd] > > > > The idea is that a second (third etc) user should be able to login > > without the first user logging out (and closing all her programs > > thereby), as available on Linux and Windows ("logoff" vs "switch > > user"). > > This kind of session management was first prominently > introduced on Mac OS X (early v10). I think "fast user switching" was first prominently introduced in Windows XP in 2001. When was Mac OS X v10 released? > > > the switching you are looking for was available on mate 1.12 I > > > think... > > > > > > the distribution uses GDM 2.18.9 with the full gdmsetup & friends... > > > On NetBSD we use gdm 2.20.11 that is quite the same one... and yes, > > > we have mate 2.19 on NetBSD-8.0 for raspberry pi. > > > > Am I right that gdm is the absolute requirement for user switching to > > work, no other display manager can do that? > > It is a combination both of the desktop environment being > able to store program states (which programs opened, with > which files, in which state) and restore them again, maybe > like a form of "memory to file and back". No, this is not the way it works, at least on Linux. I've researched how it works on my son's Ubuntu. All programs of logged-in users remain running, it's not done via storing program state, killing and restoring them. In fact, every logged-in user has her own Xserver. Only one Xserver at a time is "the current graphical console" and has access to the video card, but they all are in the ps output. I don't know however how these multiple Xservers are managed and selected, perhaps gdm does all the job, or systemd... Never figured out. > Gnome 2 could do > this in combination with gdm. While the gnome session was > responsible for the storing / restoring part, gdm would > do the login of a different user, and also keep track of > users still logged in (in "stored state"). > > As Mate and Cinnamon claim to be Gnome 2 forks, it's at > least left to imagination that they should also include > this kind of functionality. So, what is my chance of getting a working "fast user switching" solution with Mate? Is there a way for me as an average X user to enable this functionality, without much hacking? > > And while we are at it, I have a couple of questions on Mate > > (now I have mate-1.18.0 from the vanilla FreeBSD packages): > > > > 1. How do I totally disable all volume automounting in Mate/Caja? I'm quite > > happy with the system automonter and don't need no gvfs and other > > userland mounts (even more because they don't support Cyrillic > > filenames correctly). > > There is a gvfs configuration entry (via gconf2, if I remember > correctly) that lets you select which devices or filesystem > types to mount or _not_ to mount. I want to mount none. In fact, I want that even gvfsd is not started. Possible? > > In the past, I had the exact opposite problem: I _wanted_ to > use the automounter from Gnome, but it didn't always work. > Gnome's automounter relies on HAL, so maybe changing the HAL > configuration is also a way to deal with it. So fiddling with > HAL, fighting system permissions from devfs.conf and devd.conf, > creating a "umount wrapper" which also calls media eject for > optical devices, and even adding a desktop icon "USB unmount" > were required to make it _partially_ work... > > From https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html you can > check questions 2, 3, and 6. Thanks, maybe I'll try all that "/desktop/gnome/volume_manager/automount_drives false" stuff. How do I set this globally for all my users, not just for the current user? I did not find such an option for gconftool-2. > > 2. The sound control app in Mate is completely unrelated to the real > > sound system of FreeBSD (as of 11.2 and mate-1.18.0). The volume and > > input/output controls do nothing. I have to use the good old > > /usr/sbin/mixer and "sysctl hw.snd.default_unit" to manipulate with > > sound. Is this my misconfiguration or Mate's fault? > > Is it using the wrong mixer? Can you select a different mixer > device for the Gnome / Mate mixer control? What's "Mate mixer control" ? The Mate sound app lists all my soundcards correctly (maybe it just takes them from /dev/sndstat) but selecting any of the devices and trying to set parameters (set volume or test speakers) does exactly nothing. > > I fully understand that most GUI software is ported from Linux, > it's not a native BSD development result, so maybe it expects > some ALSA instead of the standard OSS... A question to you as you said you are a Mate user. Does this sound app work personally for you? Can you at least set the volume and run the speaker test from it? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 1 10:35:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383171050E2E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 10:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (vm1982.osfux.nl [79.99.187.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C34128CD6D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 10:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920A9201F2 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:34:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=osfux.nl; s=default; t=1533119674; bh=Saou6mAhXXIobZxQd7K+Jx46OgQcgnl6DamDpdigDrE=; h=Subject:From:To:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Sabz+lrhE3mromu1z6IJQz0MppyK6Bwf1EWZVpSopQmtkZtcqoMfYOOwdHRhfXLpV QU82zSLr6PtlH3HTV19p+qc2x2upFxxPWL+DY7h6tcABuvtrya2o278021DaXuux2m D5lezdPBlYr2WOxvAyXKZVidN3zxTsTFRtyy0kryuNfIf3iLSZPLMoOLENVKYctzdv DuvVroicykT211xajQVJVikFXQ8SYQnyKwsAewcUW+4xAzfBipk3ORrDx2fT+4oNt+ fRDPUXXa0qIBTHeJG80sB6mX0IiqblqRoCCANycoTTp1zTJPEsGomKQof4BhpXwkCz HWFJiW3+k4TAwSLc5ef1Yv6yp/S/fx8M7hUQt6/gLBwhIZFEijjH5M4/Ok8WNzPkY5 sRF9LdHohoTVjU9pAZNoiPiHwI6Owf728YcWZnAu1ovRjodTKbGNmFfRm4J0u515ve s3R7P13FLlPEhOtpgEaV4SOZuRkADiOukfuuYxDd3HvE62V92eLERmuMMa6/MQ1dPd ulkSa+sTITMZacFb1kLwi4E/el6SRQDgp/nU5/z8Ff31SDx61FmgZmaKk1SMJesJYr OCDmVzTRyat5xolgnzyxsXk4XW3bxUuH8demBZZ4jlvwL5FMThFTyjSusiwsS3uvR4 SJBI5qxq2Jr7Ri8tElBkGPyo= Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6356320177 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:34:30 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=osfux.nl; s=default; t=1533119673; bh=Saou6mAhXXIobZxQd7K+Jx46OgQcgnl6DamDpdigDrE=; h=Subject:From:To:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=q8a3ja8XH11OwdKJ4uaM/faxcOxIGBgRBThSl10oxOaoCQlm4k88n/5KavhRv7i3g mdGaBJpVYeqvH68oEdlf6d7F6nSS7V/OPlWM/iKXFDk24jTSb75jb1knmnFJF1uRAI PxmW1cz2qcjrKfeX9CR+nDPKHTIq/hM4LAeAUeKxn/At/Ky+ATOJ1kYxYs4PxvHvr2 rF2fIj37Mnubi/E4mZkBDfxbx9N+wENzYzM2vxXCiXmhr3uWnUWaZCtJ7cHfq42/Q1 HTLIAsMazB2bAkXl6unjQzusQVPWi9XYR/D3EvobFaqzy9KBkCTmY1fL6/GdU6rF9x R7IW8FLN4pfRR+x0hn85cyMMxlLRzgn5yRZB6u7+892zD0U5HCMqhcHQd5/q9cxBov 1UZv3E1k/bMOGEqTvpx4Z3uE0SlE11QgyL8uu6WEGsvVkQWH8oL7C26yzjgaNCTSZ8 Hb1JumLRiHNSKfkPdMrW0bgugRfnCty64ptepD0zNhbg2v0Sll9G/Gk+jbZQe5dexP wZkFv0bJTb/hChERrMY31HfPEEtEIY+3BRa4nbIxLSQQT/JCd2340eHpnm0cFhUxH6 bN7U6k3Yukw9edoMAoLZzaLnlD5XSvMTWZOgsy+qSRIlVb+PC0U18BakbjAJXQRVYj LqWfi/zoj8OKeOR0XDNp+sMw= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on vm1982.osfux.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [172.28.10.134] (engineering.quanza.net [91.208.87.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:34:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: newsyslogd / pflogd : daily logfiles for pf From: Ruben To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Message-ID: <58b3ce35-9426-6f00-885f-2dc7fa677ba5@osfux.nl> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:34:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 10:35:12 -0000 Hi, Anybody out there with a working rotation on /var/log/pflog (using newsyslog) ? All help/suggestions welcome! Kind regards, Ruben On 07/30/2018 05:12 PM, Ruben wrote: > > Hi List, > > > I'm running PF on some FreeBSD 11.x installs and I would very much like > to have daily logfiles containing the entries that land up in the pflog > device. I'm having trouble switching from "max size" rotation to "once a > day, regardless of size" rotation. > > > > My pflog entry in /etc/newsyslog.conf looked like this: > > /var/log/pflog      600  3    100    @T00 JB    /var/run/pflogd.pid > > > and after my attempted change now looks like this: > > /var/log/pflog      600  30    *    @T00 JB    /var/run/pflogd.pid > > > but no new /var/log/pflog.0.bz2 files are created anymore. 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After building the driver I am facing some issues in loading it. Already kernel includes nvme.ko but it is not loaded.So I am trying load my customized nvme driver dynamically with the below command line . Kldload -v ./nvme and getting the below error. Interface nvme.1 already present in the kld kernel. Can you please give me information on how to load my customized driver dynamically? Thanks, Nikhith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 1 14:26:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E99105E75E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 226FE76A4C for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.64.203]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue007 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lo6iD-1gQHMH0R0j-00gDEj; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:20:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:20:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: sergio lenzi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-Id: <20180801162045.f3653b7d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2HDWM62tBL/Yxk/C6pwsbPsnGcEEv+aCgnCAdMjKdn0VhypZOgp gwj0FdvVPkEm+sbgYRZXEulj/ZLq+/MskeFwbmBMdnlzongDsHjsmrge24qa55M0StszAWt zlkxij4sjOGT4yXhc6jVWkhlcuIxvq6r0x8Md3iaIaV6MhA++A/jhLI5zgBVeS2Ddib4Trd 4ZRqaGSo85gLl3dwND/jw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:56U+BvtQstY=:Kai4M+VGfCuKmKqnkmHbNg ebPtnVJOQ16w46wroWavN2qyCNCfk0MY5jo9961DSnqZkqFOWWBMoDZtk/PN8JY8w3xw3niVf rb6aemg+CeGVrNiYE2UiNCBdcwDYPgWH4oDvV3f3zulfgcoYCQIH08XafFhcAdkDLIRhWh+/K wryk/hcbOnYFIr8iTpyLWvRw8e0v15rEZ7SevFeFdJl5MiJGfARPAl/EpU937PibfGXHn98IH ahi8OD86dx0/1/zsVTGGbQgc1zh79p4OhoDRX3COP/8eQifz27lhp86pgwp+gBg3qixRuaqSG rC8ooEMspa6WI/+wkO+dbVzLarBhg1LvTMyldgodRNyw9JL3VXNznqioBvZ4HqTrCjyEzos1/ cRktOtYNrJcyM1aPoM+fsnzm7QXNMdca3V68Ko5I0zGeDv6KEPXT6A4/nKXwMSHMS2rInzuJM 4v7n4dUNGJNnYDrlc4AfFLqRKwolkddeDn655JckCjdGDH/l0W9KXwqAVmgRdglQPyQ4hacP0 y2OwoeJDT85gmtxZ7lovZNEX6j8tNR6h/1GRRDvC9oqXXKvnC1ugphcODf/36Xo5wfMqQ7/AA vOH7qQnvj1AgkMKqwiaHCM1mnl/itkflIlrvRHnkOEIVzqRYiZVNzI240e9y9ztY768SI4RJO w17vzjoyZcfLRX4c8piKqGSVkX4SGnpNgXWCmcpJG37BugFtUWza/Z/jX6InLxq2cirljoGPW 6S/gj8niPuU93icM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 14:26:39 -0000 On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:43:24 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > [dd] > > > > > > > The idea is that a second (third etc) user should be able to login > > > without the first user logging out (and closing all her programs > > > thereby), as available on Linux and Windows ("logoff" vs "switch > > > user"). > > > > This kind of session management was first prominently > > introduced on Mac OS X (early v10). > > I think "fast user switching" was first prominently introduced in > Windows XP in 2001. When was Mac OS X v10 released? In March 2001 (according to bsd-family-tree). But if I remember correctly, there were some CDE hacks that allowed something comparable on Solaris before that time, probably around 1995... but I don't know how Solaris did that (or if it really was some "user hack" in that one installation I saw it happening). > > > > the switching you are looking for was available on mate 1.12 I > > > > think... > > > > > > > > the distribution uses GDM 2.18.9 with the full gdmsetup & friends... > > > > On NetBSD we use gdm 2.20.11 that is quite the same one... and yes, > > > > we have mate 2.19 on NetBSD-8.0 for raspberry pi. > > > > > > Am I right that gdm is the absolute requirement for user switching to > > > work, no other display manager can do that? > > > > It is a combination both of the desktop environment being > > able to store program states (which programs opened, with > > which files, in which state) and restore them again, maybe > > like a form of "memory to file and back". > > No, this is not the way it works, at least on Linux. I've researched > how it works on my son's Ubuntu. All programs of logged-in users > remain running, it's not done via storing program state, killing and > restoring them. In fact, every logged-in user has her own Xserver. > Only one Xserver at a time is "the current graphical console" and has > access to the video card, but they all are in the ps output. Interesting concept! Many years ago, I've experimented with running two X servers on the same machine, equipped with two GPUs. Dedicating one USB keyboard and mouse to each server, two users could be logged in at the same time (2 persons using 1 PC). I can imagine that the user switching works the same (two "sets of programs", i. e., two login shells + attached X session and programs), except that only one of the X outputs can be shown at a time, and there is a means to interactively switch them. > I don't know however how these multiple Xservers are managed and > selected, perhaps gdm does all the job, or systemd... Never figured > out. If the same concept applied to Gnome 2 on FreeBSD, there is no systemd, so I can imagine gdm being the manager here, with an interactive hook inside the current user's Gnome session (logout -> control back to gdm; still a user there? user can "re-connect", else display normal login dialog with user selection list). I should have examined this more closely when Gnome 2 was _the_ Gnome distribution... ;-) > > Gnome 2 could do > > this in combination with gdm. While the gnome session was > > responsible for the storing / restoring part, gdm would > > do the login of a different user, and also keep track of > > users still logged in (in "stored state"). > > > > As Mate and Cinnamon claim to be Gnome 2 forks, it's at > > least left to imagination that they should also include > > this kind of functionality. > > So, what is my chance of getting a working "fast user switching" solution > with Mate? Is there a way for me as an average X user to enable this > functionality, without much hacking? As Mate doesn't have gdm, and we currently can assume that gdm is required, it probably won't work with Mate except you can get gdm somewhere into that mix. Or you decide to try Cinnamon - do _they_ use gdm (from Gnome 2)? I don't understand what has been so wrong with Gnome 2 that it needed Gnome 3 to make it much wrongerer... ;-) > > > And while we are at it, I have a couple of questions on Mate > > > (now I have mate-1.18.0 from the vanilla FreeBSD packages): > > > > > > 1. How do I totally disable all volume automounting in Mate/Caja? I'm quite > > > happy with the system automonter and don't need no gvfs and other > > > userland mounts (even more because they don't support Cyrillic > > > filenames correctly). > > > > There is a gvfs configuration entry (via gconf2, if I remember > > correctly) that lets you select which devices or filesystem > > types to mount or _not_ to mount. > > I want to mount none. In fact, I want that even gvfsd is not started. > Possible? Mount prevention can be done using HAL configuration as pointed out before. For gvfs, I'm not sure it can be disabled entirely (or even removed), as a lot of programs seem to depend on it, but it is possible to stop it from messing with mount actions. The Ubuntu + KDE equivalent is this: gconftool --type Boolean --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount false I'm sure for gvfs in Mate, there is a similar key. You can use the graphical tool "dconf-editor" to search and browse the configuration setting hierarchy for a key that contains "automount", it should be the one to set to "false". You do remember what REGEDIT.EXE /V is, don't you? ;-) There also seems to be an environment variable that can stop gvfs from using FUSE: GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE=1 (to be set for the user or globally). > > In the past, I had the exact opposite problem: I _wanted_ to > > use the automounter from Gnome, but it didn't always work. > > Gnome's automounter relies on HAL, so maybe changing the HAL > > configuration is also a way to deal with it. So fiddling with > > HAL, fighting system permissions from devfs.conf and devd.conf, > > creating a "umount wrapper" which also calls media eject for > > optical devices, and even adding a desktop icon "USB unmount" > > were required to make it _partially_ work... > > > > From https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html you can > > check questions 2, 3, and 6. > > Thanks, maybe I'll try all that > "/desktop/gnome/volume_manager/automount_drives false" stuff. I'm not sure if Mate inherited the same naming convention for their configuration, but it's worth a try. > How do I set this globally for all my users, not just for the current user? > I did not find such an option for gconftool-2. Same problem here. I had to manually make all required changes to each user individually (things like program autostart, screen size, etc.). I think nobody inside the Linux-centric GUI world cares about global settings. :-) > > > 2. The sound control app in Mate is completely unrelated to the real > > > sound system of FreeBSD (as of 11.2 and mate-1.18.0). The volume and > > > input/output controls do nothing. I have to use the good old > > > /usr/sbin/mixer and "sysctl hw.snd.default_unit" to manipulate with > > > sound. Is this my misconfiguration or Mate's fault? > > > > Is it using the wrong mixer? Can you select a different mixer > > device for the Gnome / Mate mixer control? > > What's "Mate mixer control" ? The Mate sound app lists all my > soundcards correctly (maybe it just takes them from /dev/sndstat) but > selecting any of the devices and trying to set parameters (set volume > or test speakers) does exactly nothing. Okay, so you've already checked that more than one mixer can be present in the system (/dev/mixer*), and none can be manipulated. > > I fully understand that most GUI software is ported from Linux, > > it's not a native BSD development result, so maybe it expects > > some ALSA instead of the standard OSS... > > A question to you as you said you are a Mate user. Does this sound app > work personally for you? Can you at least set the volume and run the > speaker test from it? I can only talk about the normal volume control accessed from the top bar: It works. The one slider present changes the master volume. The result can be checked from a terminal with the system's "mixer" command afterwards. Sidenote: I'm not a Mate user, but I have a few Mate users. I'm primarily a WindowMaker user myself. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 1 15:01:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBCE105FC65 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 15:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E67C9780E3; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from dalet420 ([174.0.43.39]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id kscjfUQ20WppDksckfUZFE; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:01:15 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20180605; t=1533135675; bh=n3EjL0kkMIInEyNRnxR0C46MzoxURW5zc6lqNmjFPRc=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=JC/UnpAPT8TCi1T68j69k5EC+jN9Ehm+ju7NufboLbV854oGLdqKtT717TyhqYli/ cJvXIv/5cFvTXhH4PJ1yQLvtw5mINyIEGpfuOssE8WaFprkcNfHgjPuXckPwY0J1tw pPtUCMZJNsg/ChXpSPZbrPwYrT6BRyoj8ogNAAHwGnz6ctr3m652fKRhIfQXtoJqlv JXEeslhJJkyCmu60H/SUwFQJmo68DLSFUo/xSOZLxuRXuV3FFft95Wxhh/O0I0gWu2 yXBVGpwpd2hdcjYyjGpxbdvE7pGij/l8nHd0h+GW5HnFFEL+M+03xzftaFZfIUT+W/ QA22O6AjqedRw== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=YIcrNiOx c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:117 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=5mcg790sAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=xTxPv-MRExNY0ONEAOMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=DwQTLD3Dxl4yGMj2xS4A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=uQeDYW1NI25gHNlrW_eK:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=Bl1bqend9reKY-4Nh7dc:22 From: "Dale Scott" To: , Subject: virtualbox-ose-nox11 compile fails on newly upgraded 11.2 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:01:13 -0600 Message-ID: <016701d429a8$7e674a50$7b35def0$@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdQppLLrEDYuVQ3fR2WetQFIMWs1BQ== Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfCgnZI9wb2P+3tvLzHiuT39Cth9wc5CNqxv/NGSpmGAEhrQ4rVhhqLHYBwACQcMC+FyhTwzmzyDsTQu5+nw+y+wDhVsXzB8rj69em5cku/DrO/NjwezU JXhPpg1H/OyW3v0rLkL+a2OasK1nmpFBNFrToopX333nTXILJCcVieWkaqg3gTCPQvnoaot0LCqNJA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 15:01:23 -0000 virtualbox-ose-nox11 fails to compile from ports on newly upgraded 11.2. I'm attempting to install from the ports collection because installing the binary pkg (or possibly the kmod only) is causing the system to crash during boot (I assume the same issue that is described in the 11.2 errata, causing me to uninstall virtualbox before upgrading from 11.1). The errata, and PR228535[1] which it references, indicate building from source (ports) will avoid the issue (somehow). I think someone responded to the PR saying installing the pkg after upgrading worked, but not in my case - which is why I'm now attempting to install from ports. The host server is a re-purposed media PC with Intel E6600 Core 2 CPU and 6 GB RAM (DDR2 PC2-5300) running 64-bit FreeBSD 11.2. I seem to come across mention of ZFS when searching this issue. I've always trusted that the FreeBSD installer/upgrader knows what it's doing without my involvement in this regard, although I saw a boot message that something ZFS wants to be given more memory (but not seen now that I've upgraded to 11.2). Suggestions are greatly appreciated. :-) My goal is to host two pre-built Linux vm's on what is otherwise a PHP web app server. One vm is ERPNext (from the project) and the other is Gitlab (from Bitnami). Should I cut my losses and figure out how to switch my *.ova's to bhyve? Thanks all, Dale # uname -a FreeBSD whizzer.dalescott.net 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510: Fri Jun 22 04:32:14 UTC 2018 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # portsnap fetch # portsnap extract # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11 # make install . kBuild: Installing /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/freebsd .amd64/release/bin/sdk/bindings/glue/java/TestVBox.java kBuild: Installing /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/freebsd .amd64/release/bin/sdk/bindings/glue/java/Makefile kmk: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/sys/kern/bus_if.m', needed by `/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/freebs d.amd64/release/obj/FreeBSDGeneratedKernelHeaders/bus_if.h'. Stop. kmk: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... kmk: *** Exiting with status 2 *** Error code 2 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11 *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11 root@whizzer:/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11 # From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 1 16:15:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577ED10623BE for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.in-addr.com (mail.in-addr.com [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:61e8::2525:2525]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E34347B7E8; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by mail.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fktmq-0004PH-Je; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:15:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:15:44 +0100 From: Gary Palmer To: Dale Scott Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, vbox@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose-nox11 compile fails on newly upgraded 11.2 Message-ID: <20180801161544.GA14178@in-addr.com> References: <016701d429a8$7e674a50$7b35def0$@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <016701d429a8$7e674a50$7b35def0$@shaw.ca> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: gpalmer@freebsd.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.in-addr.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:15:48 -0000 On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 09:01:13AM -0600, Dale Scott wrote: > virtualbox-ose-nox11 fails to compile from ports on newly upgraded 11.2. I'm > attempting to install from the ports collection because installing the > binary pkg (or possibly the kmod only) is causing the system to crash during > boot (I assume the same issue that is described in the 11.2 errata, causing > me to uninstall virtualbox before upgrading from 11.1). > > The errata, and PR228535[1] which it references, indicate building from > source (ports) will avoid the issue (somehow). I think someone responded to > the PR saying installing the pkg after upgrading worked, but not in my case > - which is why I'm now attempting to install from ports. [ snip ] > # uname -a > > FreeBSD whizzer.dalescott.net 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510: > Fri Jun 22 04:32:14 UTC 2018 > root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > # portsnap fetch > > # portsnap extract > > # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11 > > # make install > > . > > kBuild: Installing > /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/freebsd > .amd64/release/bin/sdk/bindings/glue/java/TestVBox.java > > kBuild: Installing > /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/freebsd > .amd64/release/bin/sdk/bindings/glue/java/Makefile > > kmk: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/sys/kern/bus_if.m', needed by > `/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/freebs > d.amd64/release/obj/FreeBSDGeneratedKernelHeaders/bus_if.h'. Stop. Do you have FreeBSD kernel sources installed? Regards, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 1 17:00:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812E21063791 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D8DD7D64C for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1533142815; x=1535734815; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=Hc4wAqKAvZbkuOzgYYvZK2uSUw3PzVRuRim04U6dVT8=; b=uIvahGIQBgszGRnJ066uJtP2Y3bdTkLTTwTRZoea0l6IaPRdcjfNzdXUbc3Kacdg8pxyYRSx5gHvXLiYlBnq6Bpmk5tGnAGgxTk0K4O7+wHnFH7LkMZDM68cz51iL0DWY6xy/8AeXCwaOpwRhtlV4+A3ZIeDB8b+3QPo5mkQYtc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTUwMDAwMDBlYzgzYTEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:59:51 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:59:51 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fktXR-0008bg-L1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 15:59:49 +0000 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:59:50 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-Id: <20180801165950.6bb77eabf97c862866d13ecf@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:00:15 -0000 On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:43:24 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: > No, this is not the way it works, at least on Linux. I've researched > how it works on my son's Ubuntu. All programs of logged-in users > remain running, it's not done via storing program state, killing and > restoring them. In fact, every logged-in user has her own Xserver. > Only one Xserver at a time is "the current graphical console" and has > access to the video card, but they all are in the ps output. Running multiple X servers is easy enough - I used to do it quite a lot using startx, you just have to give each one a different display number, as long as there's a spare virtual console X will pick one and use it. You switch between them with Ctrl-Alt-Fn as normal. That doesn't secure the sessions though. For that the user switcher has to lock the current session and switch to the selected locked session or create a new one - and of course something has to disable normal virtual console switching to prevent leaving unlocked sessions lying around. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 1 23:10:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAEB106BE41 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x230.google.com (mail-oi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3AB48C90A; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x230.google.com with SMTP id 13-v6so589838ois.1; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:10:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=0Jo87NqKxxo324xOwbm2wW4fjHMdnC96EdnQbsxkNFk=; b=HfcX1J6raN4gXQcLPXga0Uf1c/B5Lds1CKBo3k0BR0Ekr2IqlhVG0glJN3e07FSjp4 P6CmJMNwcWkecgedOxrBLKQ4Ef1fUbT6Y3elpkCwg9dviHFrhGFCW8uvjXYe/U+6u9WE J4EvGCO/aZbft2P7OPbU0fscc8lbVg96FoU4oHDS7/eiaHOSKNwK/7/Ys0dZq6GCe9DR 8OI/S2JZ2X9Ylzj1moVy2T6wKIZMCj1V4dqMTHl+r4daPy/fASnsClSmB+3wHOmNNzpo 70qtLdjuCM0nXSJYZKjQivqV/WOodx4Io7luAWLqUUaD51aAlFhfe41mdvLdBaSBvWPQ bLHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0Jo87NqKxxo324xOwbm2wW4fjHMdnC96EdnQbsxkNFk=; b=jcw3tH4oqYlbpAK5D54iOgFhcNmCjB3QPli/0CY5jgSqosJnOuFUnw1adcSiMQG0SX GRFAAZr2QWxUQ4qqkbtZfHL/6l/WxtHRnDG23cUvwvHaeyJ2MWrxpMJ1bj/omow7mfV+ SobGqpw4CWytkgK1XfeSDPpvM4fciqtJJAjN5ubU/J+m5ncWWFBkggdzRj/enwcRpwPw kWgnI+Pwr7SryNYH0ZTWQwHpqg+ySbewhgvRkHpydofSNqT6iS2EagCqeiyR6tTrbEnO lORpcdnY8KWP2mKs7iWSaK1izsUYNmiCLJu1VyjtYtVtyIPcNc+B29/eE1nWZx6erhS+ nR6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHAGcR6dDHT2tSF8nZgI4FdlOPH7yJAZBDAUJxeaMi3nwU7dQC4 uvEeRKLrBw5IWP7K5iFxZw4dJsMdo9kYYIwx5js= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeRmzD6WYHr2GIu4qZWA9o9mgDFkOUhD7ioO6BU4Nb021joO7AkCO4D4BfQF1RT4hJ9UIrmd0BStxZL63foXkU= X-Received: by 2002:aca:4d87:: with SMTP id a129-v6mr386206oib.256.1533165019032; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:10:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 2002:ac9:2c55:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:10:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <016701d429a8$7e674a50$7b35def0$@shaw.ca> References: <016701d429a8$7e674a50$7b35def0$@shaw.ca> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:10:18 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FcAhyfShG3YS8fBJXZh-2FPBx_g Message-ID: Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose-nox11 compile fails on newly upgraded 11.2 To: Dale Scott Cc: Mailinglists FreeBSD , vbox@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:10:20 -0000 On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Dale Scott wrote: > virtualbox-ose-nox11 fails to compile from ports on newly upgraded 11.2. > I'm > attempting to install from the ports collection because installing the > binary pkg (or possibly the kmod only) is causing the system to crash > during > boot (I assume the same issue that is described in the 11.2 errata, causing > me to uninstall virtualbox before upgrading from 11.1). > > > > The errata, and PR228535[1] which it references, indicate building from > source (ports) will avoid the issue (somehow). I think someone responded to > the PR saying installing the pkg after upgrading worked, but not in my case > - which is why I'm now attempting to install from ports. > > > > The host server is a re-purposed media PC with Intel E6600 Core 2 CPU and 6 > GB RAM (DDR2 PC2-5300) running 64-bit FreeBSD 11.2. I seem to come across > mention of ZFS when searching this issue. I've always trusted that the > FreeBSD installer/upgrader knows what it's doing without my involvement in > this regard, although I saw a boot message that something ZFS wants to be > given more memory (but not seen now that I've upgraded to 11.2). > > > > Suggestions are greatly appreciated. :-) My goal is to host two pre-built > Linux vm's on what is otherwise a PHP web app server. One vm is ERPNext > (from the project) and the other is Gitlab (from Bitnami). Should I cut my > losses and figure out how to switch my *.ova's to bhyve? > > > > Thanks all, > > Dale > There is no need to build or install virtualbox-ose. Installing the package version is fine. You do need to rebuild virtualbox-ose-kmod to prevent a crash at boot time. To do this you will need the current port. Be sure that version matches virtualbox-ose. If the versions do not match, install the virtualbox-ose package from head instead of quarterly and usr the port from HEAD. The current version is 5.2.16, but older versions (e.g. 5.2.14) should work. Ignore the portrevision, the digit after the '_', if present. You must have a full set of kernel sources in /usr/src. The kernel module must have the kernel sources to build correctly. Use "kldload vboxdrv vboxnetflt vboxnetadp" and re-enable loading of the driver at boot. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 2 04:55:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124F51056E1D; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 04:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACE3672703; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 04:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5CC21CB3; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 04:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 04:55:19 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Cc: tech-lists , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: how to make ports not install xorg or dependencies Message-ID: <20180802045518.GA13138@lonesome.com> References: <703ec31c-a798-68c6-c9fa-4d73bce50be2@zyxst.net> <8265d700-9f0f-d2a5-a2c8-96ad4dd2e8b2@quip.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8265d700-9f0f-d2a5-a2c8-96ad4dd2e8b2@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 04:55:28 -0000 On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 01:13:31PM +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > As Guido Falsi already said it is not guaranteed that you will not > have ports with some X libs, because some ports does not have option > to disable X11 dependencies. IMHO those ports have bugs. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 2 05:01:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E819D10573BA for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60B3572C44; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.17] ([174.0.43.39]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id l5jbfuL6qwyxUl5jefxVlx; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:01:15 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20180605; t=1533186075; bh=Yz7lhkaJyOnNcDQXekWr5WYMkwzmbjTSUgpNX15jNmA=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=W8e7WOPd3UGnyBZ9MT2N14MOOfz22lqKbLep/5hREmbT/u6y/UiyP/mBMph2ba0fZ JFDn9syA9glDvJIjiMyPe9PDu4BhMa1A55Oio6vMTSh8KV5VUFJBzmyuMIm5T/KTme gxT+GXC1Q56iyuX5t2v1Uj8Mp6YWLNeVZdpyE64ZlN2TL8YOUWC6G87xBQKU6af+CP QGVPfxVmTtTRpj7pOSOJDGShJcHhGJjM3otNLRVBStX2ueqBYxX2A0qjFJlgIyUUa7 vvsY0qM3pkItSAHHdTLiM0oL/8RjVL5xerHLPBSobwM1icxOEJu1R4LxVBYFKGjM/4 GFeoxo+FlvKXw== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=NPJhBHyg c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:117 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=5mcg790sAAAA:8 a=otM4Yf3qJjYFJns9PcgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=uQeDYW1NI25gHNlrW_eK:22 a=Bl1bqend9reKY-4Nh7dc:22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose-nox11 compile fails on newly upgraded 11.2 From: Dale Scott X-Mailer: iPad Mail (15G77) In-Reply-To: <20180801161544.GA14178@in-addr.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:01:11 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, vbox@FreeBSD.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <30588219-CC7A-49B2-A5C4-D854F7BEFA1A@shaw.ca> References: <016701d429a8$7e674a50$7b35def0$@shaw.ca> <20180801161544.GA14178@in-addr.com> To: Gary Palmer X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEOZ2DZwDrujO8AsCzdBB3BNryVmpFlLjojmYnsqS5Yh4YscvQgSbVk2XIdxEcQO7eossD/n8288pTVg0M9k1cPnNGCZq7Vc3XkzH/r8l4DAhZR2EN0k e52FktaSu3rR3ZiR3S88VBMGwJsFsmF2fJx1ayProU1oSEUe7vV3zumnEdPipz8OdiiamlUM2DqLgBSDOkfeqnz4V6B424PhcEcym56B/WYZyJYcWVdyizjZ y+WxNKahy9ke43F93FhAyQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 05:01:18 -0000 > On Aug 1, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Gary Palmer wrote: >=20 >> On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 09:01:13AM -0600, Dale Scott wrote: >> virtualbox-ose-nox11 fails to compile from ports on newly upgraded 11.2. I= 'm >> attempting to install from the ports collection because installing the >> binary pkg (or possibly the kmod only) is causing the system to crash dur= ing >> boot (I assume the same issue that is described in the 11.2 errata, causi= ng >> me to uninstall virtualbox before upgrading from 11.1). >>=20 >> The errata, and PR228535[1] which it references, indicate building from >> source (ports) will avoid the issue (somehow). I think someone responded t= o >> the PR saying installing the pkg after upgrading worked, but not in my ca= se >> - which is why I'm now attempting to install from ports. >=20 > [ snip ] >=20 >> # uname -a >>=20 >> FreeBSD whizzer.dalescott.net 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r33551= 0: >> Fri Jun 22 04:32:14 UTC 2018 >> root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> # portsnap fetch >>=20 >> # portsnap extract >>=20 >> # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11 >>=20 >> # make install >>=20 >> . >>=20 >> kBuild: Installing >> /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/free= bsd >> .amd64/release/bin/sdk/bindings/glue/java/TestVBox.java >>=20 >> kBuild: Installing >> /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/free= bsd >> .amd64/release/bin/sdk/bindings/glue/java/Makefile >>=20 >> kmk: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/sys/kern/bus_if.m', needed by >> `/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-nox11/work/VirtualBox-5.2.16/out/fre= ebs >> d.amd64/release/obj/FreeBSDGeneratedKernelHeaders/bus_if.h'. Stop. >=20 >=20 > Do you have FreeBSD kernel sources installed? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Gary Hi Gary, I don=E2=80=99t have sources installed. I started this server with a= n 11.0-RELEASE DVD ISO and did not install FreeBSD sources the or ports tree= it has been upgraded successively to 11.1 and 11.2 using freebsd-update.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 2 05:05:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9281010577CB for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163E57301D; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.17] ([174.0.43.39]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id l5nnfLJ5up5A1l5nqf6oBl; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:05:36 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20180605; t=1533186336; bh=MXJhahnZH6nfovE190ps9x+tGmLphIYPsAiVh/ni8aM=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=krZhPeDf2WyW1s2Jn5bQI2U+yU4YM4wOUpq8N67+tzRpNcEtE7sQigI7Y+v29D1Ex A05i/qbv2b6botdTcoHg79p0ow7VV/tKIy078FZTk1nSDZ1b1ay0uvf7jerd/nDYaF V8tPN7DjycDfR7oCjvyUS60K9pjuvSGQoUukkPnnygyiTk9SgiM/c+tMF+36mws15c mvPtHeCrKHKocmjchNa5qvBbjr7CxA4I8BigOwPsci/IqDPbJCISMX4vfFT+5VJWQd QEGn9BZIC6rY776p9u/76zj3SVZmoKRRiE9Qu+qLVYhKqBscDHacOEE7em5UUd+j9n ojO+97j9e7Z/g== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=JLKPTPCb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:117 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=_Dj-zB-qAAAA:8 a=y5_mZUXtqgblpz8pBcsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=a4w0SzYmEskA:10 a=X-PMVRxkGaTzr5KjunMA:9 a=tF_WERyXu7P1GGHF:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=c-cOe7UV8MviEfHuAVEQ:22 a=Bl1bqend9reKY-4Nh7dc:22 a=Fj9iO6pqr7gSyLvOkxId:22 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose-nox11 compile fails on newly upgraded 11.2 From: Dale Scott X-Mailer: iPad Mail (15G77) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:05:31 -0600 Cc: Mailinglists FreeBSD , vbox@freebsd.org Message-Id: References: <016701d429a8$7e674a50$7b35def0$@shaw.ca> To: Kevin Oberman X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfADaNjEbo9VzyVXs6TP3C2VmCe/puFrL0xj9edGsmcPqXydlRh2usOMgTZAVp+pyyuPXIPZp1iJ1rxARZ5L/GSh5V70ydkuryvrHG6s1hIP8KMdUI5BV xhuNRBWNqh5jmdOP1ZyK3WrwU3c3XzyKxWMLeRDpO0lT8lKa9My6J0xAh1CkBb3Ae1eVwSnz31Tmj0dzdyIqSD7fhfSUPZGUcPeQalb+aJVfQI0SNN5dX7ku dQoUfL53xwLXlV86uanyVg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 05:05:43 -0000 > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: >=20 >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Dale Scott wrote: >> virtualbox-ose-nox11 fails to compile from ports on newly upgraded 11.2. I= 'm >> attempting to install from the ports collection because installing the >> binary pkg (or possibly the kmod only) is causing the system to crash dur= ing >> boot (I assume the same issue that is described in the 11.2 errata, causi= ng >> me to uninstall virtualbox before upgrading from 11.1). > There is no need to build or install virtualbox-ose. Installing the packag= e version is fine. >=20 > You do need to rebuild virtualbox-ose-kmod to prevent a crash at boot time= . To do this you will need the current port. >=20 > Be sure that version matches virtualbox-ose. If the versions do not match,= install the virtualbox-ose package from head instead of quarterly and usr t= he port from HEAD. The current version is 5.2.16, but older versions (e.g. 5= .2.14) should work. Ignore the portrevision, the digit after the '_', if pre= sent. >=20 > You must have a full set of kernel sources in /usr/src. The kernel module= must have the kernel sources to build correctly. >=20 > Use "kldload vboxdrv vboxnetflt vboxnetadp" and re-enable loading of the d= river at boot. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > =20 Thanks Kevin. 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[image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 2 16:13:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB98106B68B for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C45D08EFA5 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E712934806D for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 09:13:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=schamschula.com; h=from :content-type:mime-version:subject:message-id:date:to; s= schamschula.com; bh=jsv/w1+SbeU36OAo2hfNNf2mrGE=; b=SP6hbp70Eu5a gYwN4AqeVcgsOV6hIDyINhTDiNaZr+VEg4Dw/tshCzKUYLzE2IcNuUdMewoZVljN xCu3NFN2pqfkebP/97el7e6gr+GW7C5yLX0ZEst9mFc/BEtoAciPsWgDM43T7qE/ RM6dLCul7V/6ktG8t3ARmcasKAu9nko= Received: from [198.180.133.100] (unknown [198.180.133.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lists@schamschula.com) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA76334806A for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 09:13:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Marius Schamschula Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Conflict between xorgproto-2018.4 and glproto-1.4.17 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:12:42 -0500 To: RW via freebsd-questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 16:13:21 -0000 Hi all, While running portmaster, I get the following conflict: pkg-static: xorgproto-2018.4 conflicts with glproto-1.4.17 (installs = files into the same place). Problematic file: = /usr/local/include/GL/glxint.h This has been blocking all updates since yesterday. How do I resolve this? Marius -- Marius Schamschula From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 2 16:44:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BC6106C3EC for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45713704F4 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from chimpchange.tundraware.com (mobile-166-175-58-140.mycingular.net [166.175.58.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w72GiBXo072181 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:44:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: Conflict between xorgproto-2018.4 and glproto-1.4.17 To: Marius Schamschula , RW via freebsd-questions References: From: Tim Daneliuk Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: <71a309e8-425b-e744-f288-f9d034226a3d@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:44:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Thu, 02 Aug 2018 11:44:12 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: w72GiBXo072181 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.925, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.07) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 16:44:23 -0000 On 08/02/2018 11:12 AM, Marius Schamschula wrote: > Hi all, > > While running portmaster, I get the following conflict: > > pkg-static: xorgproto-2018.4 conflicts with glproto-1.4.17 (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/include/GL/glxint.h Take a look at /usr/ports/UPGRADING for an explanation > > This has been blocking all updates since yesterday. > > How do I resolve this? > > Marius > -- > Marius Schamschula > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 2 17:20:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905D106D0D1 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 482567181F for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@schamschula.com) Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B0B348074; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 10:19:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=schamschula.com; h=from :message-id:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to :cc:to:references; s=schamschula.com; bh=NWBrW8Qkp7/v+33WZ16k2Pp HOfk=; b=GXj4i7R7m67zEvO8O0MqtpOW+tZpf2d8SqJ13b19BpeZNtR67zvVlcy VL0aHDNC6q0SivLaN7vZ95TYfAbbDscLKsn5zmkebq+6KdguaDM1XWjnqL/PVr7Y 251YKfC8Jryad4eXfR9Ax5BX/8KGafm180jDyF9bfJBQZBvkr49c= Received: from [198.180.133.100] (unknown [198.180.133.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lists@schamschula.com) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1C2234806D; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 10:19:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Marius Schamschula Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Conflict between xorgproto-2018.4 and glproto-1.4.17 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 12:19:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <71a309e8-425b-e744-f288-f9d034226a3d@tundraware.com> Cc: RW via freebsd-questions To: Tim Daneliuk References: <71a309e8-425b-e744-f288-f9d034226a3d@tundraware.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 17:20:01 -0000 Tim, Thanks for the pointer! I wan=E2=80=99t aware of the /usr/ports/UPDATING = file. > On Aug 2, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Tim Daneliuk = wrote: >=20 > On 08/02/2018 11:12 AM, Marius Schamschula wrote: >> Hi all, >>=20 >> While running portmaster, I get the following conflict: >>=20 >> pkg-static: xorgproto-2018.4 conflicts with glproto-1.4.17 (installs = files into the same place). Problematic file: = /usr/local/include/GL/glxint.h >=20 >=20 > Take a look at /usr/ports/UPGRADING for an explanation >=20 >>=20 >> This has been blocking all updates since yesterday. >>=20 >> How do I resolve this? >>=20 >> Marius >> -- >> Marius Schamschula >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ >=20 Marius -- Marius Schamschula From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 3 11:10:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3BC1066325 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 11:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 01ef28b6.AMoAABHl4CwAAcEdHGwAAEo91zIAAML8oQsAHvWaAAFMuwBbZDgv@bnc3.mailjet.com) Received: from o130.p8.mailjet.com (o130.p8.mailjet.com [87.253.233.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 334E07CA89 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 11:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 01ef28b6.AMoAABHl4CwAAcEdHGwAAEo91zIAAML8oQsAHvWaAAFMuwBbZDgv@bnc3.mailjet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; d=bnc3.mailjet.com; i=sales=3Dlondonvintageguitars.com@bnc3.mailjet.com; s=mailjet; h=message-id:mime-version:from:to:subject:date:list-id:list-unsubscribe: precedence:x-csa-complaints:x-mj-mid:x-mj-smtpguid:x-report-abuse-to: content-type; bh=5Z9vwOcXevj/HUliYT66d0YAAf/xT1s2/76caVG84K0=; b=rhukprExBlGl7TlI0QBy89lBd5nNeA7Ge4CtVKXyu/DNhNUtU9QELGyv7 YX5VUI2eDhULSaNrLopPQkwngZLYmYdu30uk+JzOa//iROyQN2r3OHm2doKy iZPv/SYWLMxxgLNnsJPbTVRpsENSSUREievyRDC4d9717JMNKSJrpE= Message-Id: <01ef28b6.AMoAABHl4CwAAcEdHGwAAEo91zIAAML8oQsAHvWaAAFMuwBbZDgv@mailjet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Denmark Street Guitars To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: USED GEAR WANTED FOR CASH!! 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Brian Ebenezer Enterprises https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 3 21:41:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE46105258D for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 21:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A9E76CD4 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 21:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCE77180AA for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 16:41:43 -0500 (CDT) To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Valeri Galtsev Subject: name resolution puzzle Message-ID: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 16:41:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 21:41:50 -0000 Dear Experts, I just noticed some behavior of commands "host" and "nslookup" that puzzles me. Namely, they do not query /etc/hosts file first, but query nameserver instead, even though nsswitch.conf order is "files dns": $cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | grep hosts hosts: files dns $ cat /etc/hosts | grep holometer.uchicago.edu 128.135.20.84 holometer holometer.uchicago.edu $ host holometer.uchicago.edu holometer.uchicago.edu has address 128.135.52.70 $ nslookup holometer.uchicago.edu Server: 128.135.249.50 Address: 128.135.249.50#53 Name: holometer.uchicago.edu Address: 128.135.52.70 So, it appears, that the commands "host" and "nslookup" go directly to DNS server, and do not look into /etc/hosts first which I have expected. I should mention that other compiled programs do obey the nsswitch.conf query order. Can someone enlighten me on this? The reason I have different IP in /etc/hosts is: I'm building the box to migrate some host to, and I'd like to test some stuff that should work from other machines before I switch DNS records to new IP. So, on these external machines I am trying to have hostname resolve into future IP just by adding it to /etc/hosts. Thanks. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 3 22:05:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BE91052C06 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F35EC7776B for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from [192.168.3.57] (p5496E1D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.150.225.208]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BAEF43C0743; Sat, 4 Aug 2018 00:05:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Philipp Vlassakakis Message-Id: <00F8C747-1749-4F3D-98AF-B3A980B194FD@lists.vlassakakis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: name resolution puzzle Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 00:05:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List To: Valeri Galtsev References: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 22:05:36 -0000 Hi, As far as I know, neither =E2=80=9Enslookup=E2=80=9C, nor "host" uses = /etc/hosts, regardless if you add =E2=80=9Efiles dns=E2=80=9C to = /etc/nsswitch.conf You can check the entries via "ping". See truss: host google.de [=E2=80=A6] open("/etc/resolv.conf",O_RDONLY,0666) =3D 3 (0x3) dig google.de [=E2=80=A6] open("/etc/resolv.conf",O_RDONLY,0666) =3D 3 (0x3) Regards, Philipp > Am 03.08.2018 um 23:41 schrieb Valeri Galtsev = : >=20 > Dear Experts, >=20 > I just noticed some behavior of commands "host" and "nslookup" that = puzzles me. Namely, they do not query /etc/hosts file first, but query = nameserver instead, even though nsswitch.conf order is "files dns": >=20 > $cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | grep hosts >=20 > hosts: files dns >=20 > $ cat /etc/hosts | grep holometer.uchicago.edu >=20 > 128.135.20.84 holometer holometer.uchicago.edu >=20 > $ host holometer.uchicago.edu >=20 > holometer.uchicago.edu has address 128.135.52.70 >=20 > $ nslookup holometer.uchicago.edu >=20 > Server: 128.135.249.50 > Address: 128.135.249.50#53 >=20 > Name: holometer.uchicago.edu > Address: 128.135.52.70 >=20 >=20 > So, it appears, that the commands "host" and "nslookup" go directly to = DNS server, and do not look into /etc/hosts first which I have expected. >=20 > I should mention that other compiled programs do obey the = nsswitch.conf query order. >=20 >=20 > Can someone enlighten me on this? >=20 >=20 > The reason I have different IP in /etc/hosts is: I'm building the box = to migrate some host to, and I'd like to test some stuff that should = work from other machines before I switch DNS records to new IP. So, on = these external machines I am trying to have hostname resolve into future = IP just by adding it to /etc/hosts. >=20 > Thanks. > Valeri >=20 > --=20 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 3 22:19:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D1C1053114 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from mail.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-057.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.computinginnovations.com", Issuer "mail.computinginnovations.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D6F477EDB for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from [10.20.30.142] (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by mail.computinginnovations.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTP id w73LuHVt096764 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 16:56:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-ID: <5B64CF73.4000807@computinginnovations.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 16:56:03 -0500 From: Derek Ragona User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130911 Thunderbird/17.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: name resolution puzzle References: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180803-8, 08/03/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 22:19:08 -0000 On 8/3/2018 4:41 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Dear Experts, > > I just noticed some behavior of commands "host" and "nslookup" that > puzzles me. Namely, they do not query /etc/hosts file first, but query > nameserver instead, even though nsswitch.conf order is "files dns": > > $cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | grep hosts > > hosts: files dns > > $ cat /etc/hosts | grep holometer.uchicago.edu > > 128.135.20.84 holometer holometer.uchicago.edu > > $ host holometer.uchicago.edu > > holometer.uchicago.edu has address 128.135.52.70 > > $ nslookup holometer.uchicago.edu > > Server: 128.135.249.50 > Address: 128.135.249.50#53 > > Name: holometer.uchicago.edu > Address: 128.135.52.70 > > > So, it appears, that the commands "host" and "nslookup" go directly to > DNS server, and do not look into /etc/hosts first which I have expected. > > I should mention that other compiled programs do obey the > nsswitch.conf query order. > > > Can someone enlighten me on this? > > > The reason I have different IP in /etc/hosts is: I'm building the box > to migrate some host to, and I'd like to test some stuff that should > work from other machines before I switch DNS records to new IP. So, on > these external machines I am trying to have hostname resolve into > future IP just by adding it to /etc/hosts. > > Thanks. > Valeri > Do a: man 5 hosts You have the wrong order in your /etc/hosts file you have: 128.135.20.84 holometer holometer.uchicago.edu Should be: 128.135.20.84 holometer.uchicago.edu holometer Also try dig which is more current that nslookup. -Derek --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 3 22:20:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84246105319B for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F93677F4E for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=e9pEcuh/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=7hNMySir0P3K9clhoDsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: transitional domain rcn.com does not designate 209.6.230.48 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:36822] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id 5D/0E-18484-470D46B5; Fri, 03 Aug 2018 18:00:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23396.53361.507981.528518@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 18:00:17 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: name resolution puzzle In-Reply-To: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 22:20:27 -0000 Valeri Galtsev writes: > I just noticed some behavior of commands "host" and "nslookup" that > puzzles me. Namely, they do not query /etc/hosts file first, but query > nameserver instead, even though nsswitch.conf order is "files dns": ... > Can someone enlighten me on this? What is the content of /etc/host.conf, and does its usage apply here? 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List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 06:03:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --C3hrcDz211Lt1Ujl5zwHzmeYCvtUn16xl Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="pcfljdkO6IJRZCGetHDgFoiQ5LwNkPe8M"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <403d5d4b-a342-947b-069d-149f1f8232e9@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: name resolution puzzle References: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <5cbb1cc0-8e3f-2736-755e-d182abfd90e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> --pcfljdkO6IJRZCGetHDgFoiQ5LwNkPe8M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2018 22:41, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > So, it appears, that the commands "host" and "nslookup" go directly to > DNS server, and do not look into /etc/hosts first which I have expected= =2E host(1), dig(1), delv(1), drill(1) and nslookup(1) are all specifically tools for doing lookups in the DNS. That's the only place they look. If you want to replicate the full hostname resolution process using all the facilities enabled in your nsswitch.conf, use getent(1) like so: getent hosts freefall.freebsd.org Cheers, Matthew --pcfljdkO6IJRZCGetHDgFoiQ5LwNkPe8M-- --C3hrcDz211Lt1Ujl5zwHzmeYCvtUn16xl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAltlQZJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDE5 RjE1NEVDQkYxMTJFNTA1NDRFM0YzMDAwNTEzRjEwRTBBOUU0RTcACgkQAFE/EOCp 5OcB0xAArb2PFXEtVftLfYnQKuAdmIFb2njnfHxD0L9o4UKZUrTEJvY2nW8zfuLI 79hr22XGIwrXEoeHb+EgmXD9tCsTQbaKvVB2Dhh2mzClWI1DUKBSEfhEkDAVpC5i ze0x9qdJdpZ7yJD7veLwV0yDbK2F4lTl6aPtc1DWLLoipMGA0EuBhTE3CYchZW/U KxApajLWREMLqd9WE6vf4wAD0AdDtuN069U6m2VQCFuHwCryXjgdTrPDL9Fuw1T+ 88r0O5FFqBAhyucX3YBh2rTMIuy7ms7TS3n8aDMGYelKwSwLWik+Sr8K1o/5nf1P ZLFjUpRJtD3BR8579wE9F0961qekDDODWDW5RZ3ElnQ/ZnlV4RZEt50f7ZKPk8Te wU7cimcUmxoVVHEfJ5mB/+cuQ73LFern4Rv7l21VCkKIGMQ73ZKcOphSkmmBzqGj ExYaVjkTEm/X6oCpGnH7TJlsJs2LPOOYVFH+kyrZl86rpf7EotggxftCZvy4g2Tx wnsF1liL9jqmPJiED5UQGuBCRLkdGJgejKqOxx053CltCrz7l5DlKK8wmiWjTK6g 9JKgFQriQbkTg8dMlV/xEEzsMHKKLxvWroZVAMaIEXbuLbS3y6W8WcHf/iQtnDjQ TMn8/Qcr1f0o7Q8lfDutKL5ycnwA5eH4nr/WhwI1nJwFknyisLs= =2jUv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C3hrcDz211Lt1Ujl5zwHzmeYCvtUn16xl--