From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 09:04:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE51716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:04:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4509A43D2F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from q@uni.de) Received: from wrzx34.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx34.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.34]) by wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CA1D7F62; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from virusscan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wrzx34.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78C4B105F; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.28]) by wrzx34.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61CD9BF5A; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from coyote.q.local (wwsx14.win-screen.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.253.14]) by wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2CCD7F62; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (roadrunner.q.local [192.168.0.148]) by coyote.q.local (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0M94W9I006929; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from q@uni.de) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.q.local (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0M94W1j001365; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from q@uni.de) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.q.local (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0M94V68001364; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from q@uni.de) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:04:31 +0100 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: Alexander Leidinger Message-ID: <20050122090430.GA850@galgenberg.net> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Leidinger , ports@freebsd.org References: <20050121205202.4092fc5a@Magellan.Leidinger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121205202.4092fc5a@Magellan.Leidinger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (Rechenzentrum Universitaet Wuerzburg) cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does everybody switch to dynamic plists? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 21.01.2005 at 20:52:02 +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > I count 1 positive and 5 negative aspects. You are missing the obvious: Size. First of all, I couldn't care less about size, because I'm on a speedy connection and downloading 1MB diffs is a matter of seconds. Modem users however will wait up to five minutes to get this diff. Take the teTeX ports for example, the diff for the new version is 1.4MB. Why? Because the name of the directory changed, which means you have to completely exchange the whole plist. Of course I like static plists too (because of grepping), but I am concerned about the CVS churn those massive changes will cause. If everyone is fine with massive pkg-plist diffs and the associated load on CVS and CVSup servers then go ahead, as I said, for me, size is no problem and storage is cheap. But please keep users with Modems/ISDN in mind. Ulrich Spoerlein --=20 PGP Key ID: F0DB9F44 Encrypted mail welcome! Fingerprint: F1CE D062 0CA9 ADE3 349B 2FE8 980A C6B5 F0DB 9F44 Ok, which part of "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn." didn't you understand? --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8hcemArGtfDbn0QRAni1AJsEYuMYtmdoGCxH1w1CB2hVOw/OyQCcD/WA Y/TQ0sGUnHgHNd75aakTWH4= =W3Gl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM--