Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:23:10 -0800 From: "John Barbee" <jbarbee@singular.com> To: "Greg Black" <gjb@comkey.com.au> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Making my login class capabilities database work right on 2.2.5 Message-ID: <000b01be5437$b83491e0$0700a8c0@farpoint> In-Reply-To: <19990209104253.16873.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au>
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I'm sorry. I made a poor choice of words. I should've said "added functionality" instead of "'fix'". You are absolutely right, w/who/finger are not broken in anyway whatsoever. They do exactly what they are spec-ed to do. However, IMO w/who/finger should not only return those users who have regular logins but also X logins. In the ports list there are the following X terminals: 9term, aterm, emu, eterm, rxvt and of course xterm which comes with X and kvt which comes with KDE (which isn't totally functional but kvt works, thank god), not to mentioned the non-englisn X terminals. Doesn't it seem more efficient if w/who/finger takes on this added functionality rather than configuring different terminal programs (which I understand you don't since you only use xterm, but I'm saying not every does). Furthermore, doesn't returning the current X logins seems more in the line of w/who/finger's functionality? A terminal program's major functionality is to handle the user doing stuff not to tell whatever database that someone has logged in. IMO one of the great things about unix was that most programs did one thing and one thing well and you string them up by piping or by redirecting. What do you think? john. > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Black [mailto:gjb@comkey.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 2:43 AM > To: John Barbee > Cc: Andrew Lankford; cjclark@home.com; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Making my login class capabilities database work right on > 2.2.5 > > > > not everyone uses xterm. personally, i use kvt. > > I stick to software that doesn't crash. But, if kvt is your > choice, then you'd need to see if it's a functional replacement > for xterm and make further decisions based on that. Whenever > somebody uses a non-standard program, then they just have to > live with the ways it might not do what the old one did. For > instance, I use qmail (and have for a long time), but it means > that all the millions of experts on sendmail have nothing to > offer me if I have a problem. (I don't, but that's beside the > point here.) > > > it might be a better > > idea to "fix" w/who/finger to gather information based on what > ttys are in > > use or something to that effect rather than what's in the *tmp logs. > > Those programs are not broken and don't need to be fixed. The > utmp file has a purpose and it's up to those programs that ought > to update it to do so. > > -- > Greg Black <gjb@acm.org> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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