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Date:      Mon, 5 Mar 2018 09:51:01 -0800
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, deb@freebsdfoundation.org
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem
Message-ID:  <bf158178-ef20-5165-da34-839c1df79ca6@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <201803050114.w251Dv53087353@fire.js.berklix.net>
References:  <201803050114.w251Dv53087353@fire.js.berklix.net>

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From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, deb@freebsdfoundation.org
Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <bf158178-ef20-5165-da34-839c1df79ca6@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem
References: <201803050114.w251Dv53087353@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: <201803050114.w251Dv53087353@fire.js.berklix.net>

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On 3/4/2018 5:13 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> deb@freebsdfoundation.org wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> This is Deb Goodkin, Executive Director for the FreeBSD Foundation. Th=
e
>> Foundation isn't responsible for the CoC, that would be the FreeBSD
>> Project's core team. Please don't spread mis-information about the
>> Foundation censoring discussions. Someone else on this thread can hope=
fully
>> direct you to the correct mailing list for discussing your concerns
>> regarding the Code of Conduct.=20
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Deb Goodkin
>> Executive Director
>> The FreeBSD Foundation
>=20
> Hi Deb,
> Did the foundation pay for it ?=20

The discussion needs to not demonize people or entities involved on
either side.  It seems to me that it would have been better had this CoC
had more outside review and possibly a draft period where the project
asked for community feedback.  IMHO it's not too late to go down those
paths but we need to take a deep breath and consider that the intentions
of the CoC are only good; that the project should be more welcoming for
everyone.  There's nothing wrong with the Foundation sponsoring a CoC,
even if it had flaws.  It likely would need to help sponsor independent
reviews to weed out unneutral language.


--=20
Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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