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Date:      Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:23:04 +0100
From:      Julien Cigar <jcigar@ulb.ac.be>
To:        Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Cc:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
Message-ID:  <1229008984.2749.74.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be>
In-Reply-To: <20081211155500.H1327@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:56 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > - on almost all my machines I have problems with CD/DVD drives, mostly
> > things like READ_BIG timeout, etc. I tried almost everything (disabling
> > ACPI, DMA, upgrading the drive BIOS, etc), disabling DMA resolved some
> > problems, but it's still impossible to burn a DVD for example.
> 
> i don't have. i use only atapicam+cd driver, no acd.

Of course I tried atapicam too (I even removed acd totally from the
kernel), but it doesn't resolve the problem(s)

> 
> > - my mouse (a Logitec MX 300, USB) is still undetected at boot. Every
> > time I have to unplug/plug it after boot. Not a big deal I admit, but
> > boring.
> > - USB mass storage plug/unplug sometimes causes system panic. I know
> 
> never got such thing, except when i forgot to unmount
> 

"except when i forgot to unmount" -> yep, the problem lies here, it's so
natural to just unplug an USB device

> > that this is a well known bug that require some rearchitecting and that
> > a proper umount has always been the way to umount a drive, but,
> > honestly, you cannot seriously convince someone to use FreeBSD with
> > things like this ...
> > - Altough ports are fantastic, building things like OpenOffice or ... is
> > just inhuman, especially when you cannot use -j for building ports (but
> > it's being resolved I think). Of course there are packages, but it's far
> > less friendly to use (and manage) than apt-get/dpkg.
> 
> you may pkg_add from ftp repository

of course .. too bad that there is no pkg_upgrade

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