Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:32:11 +0100 From: Martin Welk <mw@freibergnet.de> To: SitePlus Web Services <jim@siteplus.com> Cc: mw@freibergnet.de, "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: /var full Message-ID: <19991215183211.A74422@sol.freibergnet.de> In-Reply-To: <3857BC29.53ADA94E@siteplus.com>; from jim@siteplus.com on Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 11:04:57AM -0500 References: <3857AFC2.398188F0@siteplus.com> <19991215162507.D63732@sol.freibergnet.de> <3857BC29.53ADA94E@siteplus.com>
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On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 11:04:57AM -0500, SitePlus Web Services wrote: > What this has to do with stable is that I run FreeBSD-stable, and I > installed most things with defaults. I only stated that the server had > become busy because I thought the http logs were the problem. Other users > are the main reason that it is busy. I don't consider my site as anything > special. After I moved the logs and mail I still had the problem so I was > asking for help with a FreeBSD machine. I thought that was what the mailing > list was for. And the reason for the name is that Netscape mail only allows > one identity. Since I answer customer mail most often, I have found it > easier to leave it generic, however I changed it this time just for you. You could use a mailer where that From: header is changeable by the user :-) Okay, let's not get into mailer discussion, I've just converted from xfmail to mutt :-) (xfmail is so slooooow over a non-local network connection :-) ) If you think, your /var file system is too small because you're running out of space, just check what's in there. You neither gave the people reading the list an information how much space your /var file system has actually neither what your primary doing with. We have a /var file system at a customer's server that runs sometimes out of space although it has more than three gigabyte avaiable, and it's just for e-mail. You ask why? Because sometimes they get e-mails of sizes larger than 50 megabytes and they are spread across 10 mailboxes and more and not every user takes away his monstermails every 15 minutes. Don't tell me that we shouldn't do this that way, it's the customer's special wish and he knows about the difficulties. OTOH, I know /var file systems not larger than 50 megabytes, because nobody uses e-mail on that machine and there are almost no interactive users and the logs are circled by newsyslog regularly and so on, because it's primary purpose is to run as an NFS server. Perhaps I was a little rude in first e-mail but I found it very astonishing that you asked for help with that little description for a problem you could easily solve by looking and planning what you are going to do with your box. I know somebody who set up a news server (INN) a while ago. We had technical difficulties with the machine and reading news via NNRP was constantly getting slower the longer that machine ran. Okay, for that technical reasons, the news server was reinstalled and it was constantly getting slower after four or five weeks. It receives only a small feed, the "de" hiercharchy. When that news server was re- installed, I said one should remember to setup expire. Yes, that machine is using cycbuffs for the news spool, but the news overview (needed for faster NNRP client access) has to run through an expire anyway. So that good old ufs was the bottleneck and after expiring more than 900,000 entries it was as fast as it was the first days and is still as expire is now called by crontab daily. What I want to say: this has nothing to do with FreeBSD itself, but with a not completely configured software doing its thing. However, with further information it could at least be possible for me to help you. How much is your /var now and what are you doing with it? (Perhaps something like ``cd /var; du *'' can give enlightment - mentally, not the window manager :-) ) Regards, Martin -- FreibergNet Systemhaus GbR Martin Welk * Sales, Support Systemhaus für Daten- und Netzwerktechnik phone +49 3731 781387 Unternehmensgruppe Liebscher & Partner fax +49 3731 781377 D-09599 Freiberg * Am St. Niclas Schacht 13 http://www.freibergnet.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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