From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Mar 18 16:55:33 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA01363 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 16:55:33 -0800 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA01355; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 16:55:30 -0800 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id TAA03163; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 19:12:39 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199503190012.TAA03163@hda.com> Subject: Rave rave rave To: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 19:12:38 -0500 (EST) Cc: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199503182101.NAA24064@netcom14.netcom.com> from "Amancio Hasty Jr" at Mar 18, 95 01:01:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1968 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty Jr writes: > > >I talked to 3 different board vendors, Digiboard included, who were > > Great! About 2 years ago , I spoke to a representative of DigiBoard > all they where interested was on Windows and OS/2 . Is nice to > see a cool breeze blowing our way. DigiBoard is now and always has had a Unix orientation. For a while that was one of the big markets for multiport boards. The representative you spoke to was ill informed. Many representatives still are ill informed. I spoke to someone at DigiBoard in sales who pointed me to a dial up bulletin board for technical information. I asked about ftp and the answer was "no, just the bulletin board". Well yes, they have both ftp at digibd.com and a web page at www.digibd.com. But sales is Windows oriented. The Windows orientation of sales, and other non-technical "decision makers" involved with computers, is our biggest challenge in furthering FreeBSD in industry. I have clients who will have burning bamboo splints shoved under their fingernails if Chairman Bill says they should so that they won't miss the second coming of Microsoft. I've had to "work" with Windows for a few months. There are many young engineers (yes, you kids out there) who think it is NORMAL to have to power cycle your computer three times a day. When in desperation I moved some tools to an underutilized Sun system in order to get some work done, and promptly started getting core dumps, one of the kids said, in all honesty, "See? You have the same kind of problem on Unix". I just stared at him. What else could I do? That Sun had 62 days uptime, and he STILL won't grant me that the core dump (and then debug) is better than the power cycle. I'll retitle this "Rave rave rave" and I apologize to the list in advance. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267