Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:13:13 +0200 From: Remko Lodder <remko@FreeBSD.org> To: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org> Cc: doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11 chapter.sgml Message-ID: <4682C4D9.8030404@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20070627200801.GD34249@abigail.blackend.org> References: <200706271739.l5RHd6sZ076571@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070627193513.GB34249@abigail.blackend.org> <4682BD48.2090805@FreeBSD.org> <20070627195117.GC34249@abigail.blackend.org> <4682C040.3080701@FreeBSD.org> <20070627200801.GD34249@abigail.blackend.org>
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Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 09:53:36PM +0200, Remko Lodder wrote:
>>>>> I see one problem with this change and the first sentence of the
>>>>> Handbook:
>>>>> "Welcome to FreeBSD! This handbook covers the installation and day to
>>>>> day use of FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE and FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE."
>>>>> I think we should wait for new releases directly supporting Xorg 7.2
>>>>> before attempting to update this chapter, this will avoid problems for
>>>>> the newcomers to FreeBSD.
>>>>>
>>>> The versions mentioned support Xorg 7.2, we should not lie about them,
>>>> but your opinion is denoted, thanks for that.
>>>>
>>> My opinion does not count, the only thing that counts is the fact that
>>> if one installs FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE or FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE via the
>>> CD/DVD/ISO and use the packages from these supports there will be a
>>> problem with what is now written in the Handbook.
>>>
>> ports are never up to date in whatever release, if this is a problem
>> we should add a note about this instead of hiding the fact.
>>
>
> Ports? I never talked about ports. I just meant someone that installs a
> FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE from CD (which is the way most of non-experts use)
> and installs all his applications and of course X11 from the packages
> available on these CDs, then the informations for the fonts or xdm will be
> just wrong.
>
Packages aren't always up to date as well; 7.2 was released and is
supported by 5.5 and 6.2. Because the generic installation won't work
we should document on the page that for 5.5 and 6.2 you need an up to
date ports tree and install xorg 7.2. via that way). I think it would be
unwise to tell that 6.3 and 7.0 (for that matter) are the first ones
that support xorg 7.2 because that aint true (yes the default
installation might include some version of 7.2 in those versions).
Anyway; as said thanks for replying you DO have a point but I think
that we then should add more documentation to warn people instead
of changing the releases for it.
thanks for the discussion; in the end it will help our community :)
cheers
remko
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