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Date:      Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:46:38 -0700
From:      Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
To:        Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>, FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
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On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 06/06/2012 09:45, Bruce Cran wrote:
> > On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> >> On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable.
> >>   It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or
> >> drivers unless you have access to a signing key.  As building your own
> >> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is
> >> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use.
>
> > It just means that anyone wishing to run their own kernels would either
> > need to disable secure boot, or purchase/create their own certificate
> > and install it.
>
> Indeed.  However disabling secure boot is apparently:
>
>   * too difficult for users of Fedora
>
>   * not possible on all platforms (arm based tablets especially)
>
> and purchasing your own certificate currently means paying $99 to
> Microsoft, or else getting a key from the hardware manufacturer (which I
> very much suspect will not be free either).
>
> While I would expect the typical FreeBSD user to be quite capable of
> disabling secure boot, I know that this is something that will result in
> realms of questions by new users, alarmist claims that "FreeBSD is not
> secure" and general glee amongst the "FreeBSD is dying" crowd.
>
> This is just another misconceived DRM scheme and suffers from all the
> same old flaws.
>
>        Cheers,
>
>        Matthew
>
> --
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
>
>
>


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Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk



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