From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 20:16:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956D106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FD88FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so585369qyk.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.1.99 with SMTP id 35mr2160682qce.84.1312575372912; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (ool-44c59c15.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.156.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o4sm2374325qct.37.2011.08.05.13.16.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E3C4F7F.7020506@xaerolimit.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:15:59 -0400 From: Chris Brennan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=D5B20C0C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:16:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060705060007040303010505" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060705060007040303010505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/5/2011 3:12 PM, Christian Barthel wrote: > Hello,=20 >=20 > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. I= t > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. = >=20 > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe= , > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) >=20 > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less= > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces= , > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD.=20 >=20 > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). = I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default w= m > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure.=20 >=20 > Are there any other window manager worth looking?=20 >=20 > What is your window manager?=20 >=20 >=20 Christian, I'm usually a fluxbox fanatic, but lately, I've been messing with other WM's just for the hell of it. Never was a fan of Gnome, 1.x or 2.x and KDE was just fugly as all getout. But that's just my opinion :D. XFCE4 was always my second choice for a WM, slightly more feature rich but not bloated like Gnome/KDE. If you want to wrastle (yes wrastle!) with gnome-lite[3], that could be a possibility for you as well (it's lite because it doesn't pull in *all* of the deps of a full gnome2 install but you can accidentily pull them in by installing something else) I'm a minimalist at heart, even when I have to use Windows, I prefer EmergeDesktop[1] over the default windows shell. So that said, Fluxbox has always fit the bill as to being as minimalistic yet extensible as I needed it to be when I needed it to be. If your *seriously* hardcore, you can check out ratpoison[2] (good luck on that ) To be perfectly square about it, I honestly went and installed all kinds of Window Managers, Gnome, KDE (yes I still do occasionally try new releases), KFCE, fluxbox/openbox/blackbox as well as a few more obscure and less/non-maintained WM's such as e17 and the ever fabled e18/e19 beta builds and yes, I even tried ratpoison (just keep in mind that the last news even for it was Dec. of '09. Good lucj on your quest for a WM and maybe ... document it for us, others might learn something from your trials and tribulations. [1] http://www.emergedesktop.org [2] http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/ [3] x11/gnome2-lite --=20 > Chris Brennan > -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------060705060007040303010505-- --------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOPE+DAAoJEO7NmoTVsgwMlUYH/3V8xhbZiAg+E5d16RI5o0pf NAnfKTEiYcvNmJNuHr61ljLJI4U6DHj3KQ3d+RgK+ugS3i/FuzVoNBEUbZA5Xux2 VGLKiV8FVoNzglVP5QMK79XY9ecNafz+9U0ZXh2gyRSVYyCXIcNIZIMf7X0Cd/A2 24YtzreOlw1cnc9l0rjrSghGWC1K20xD4HXiW8V4nUjkxJ8YfTYyXtjrPfLq4DKv CedUUuaiKEdgAu3NnEjTZl/m6pHASOHrWTZb04Su5bxHbgacziv40jyQKs7IpuFM Ts+TKF4PPXbtAQnL2eCX+ZuCW2xi+jjCHy7OmodXN7FvNI9uM2SBRm1NNWL/Nic= =xV9l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C--