Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:58:51 -0700 From: Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com> To: Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>, "Bruce M. Simpson" <bms@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 Message-ID: <0AE1196D-949A-4F2A-B885-2740D95BEF07@netconsonance.com> In-Reply-To: <20080605125105.GA79727@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846E637.9080101@samsco.org> <BFF61274-C192-4361-9DEB-93DED2E02CA7@netconsonance.com> <48472DB6.5030909@samsco.org> <6010676B-91B0-4AF8-ACF8-039A59B29331@netconsonance.com> <484736E0.6090004@samsco.org> <C69AC20A-225C-478D-B0C8-B2F018B555C6@netconsonance.com> <4847D5F8.80605@FreeBSD.org> <20080605125105.GA79727@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
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On Jun 5, 2008, at 5:51 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> If the exact regression between 6.2 and 6.3 can be tracked down,
> great.
> If it's in a specific driver, CVS commit logs or cvsweb will come in
> handy. Otherwise, if it's some larger piece of code ("ohai i revamped
> the intrupt handlar!"), chances of finding it are slimmer. I'm a bit
> disappointed that Jo hasn't explicitly mentioned what's broken in 6.3
> that's affecting him, because that might help everyone. Heck, I'll
> even
> add it to my Commonly reported issue wiki page. PRs would be good,
> but
> I'll gladly take past mailing list discussions.
I will start a new thread with the specific issues that concern my
environment upon my return. I'd like to keep the specific issues
separate from the overall policy question, because they are very
different in my mind.
> Jo's opinion is reasonable, but the bottom line is that the FreeBSD
> Project folks will always win the argument once the "it's best-effort"
> trump card is played; the convo has to end once it's on the table.
Yes, but it often gets played too often too fast. It's worth having a
discussion of the policy goals. I'm not saying that this isn't the
very best that FreeBSD can do -- maybe it is. I just couldn't find
any documentation of why dropping 6.2 makes a lot of sense, so I was
hoping to get a clear answer for that.
--
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source
and other randomness
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