From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 12:20:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9B1B942; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22b.google.com (mail-lb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063132AB9; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id s7so2830933lbd.30 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WCWyUZjGBE+I+lhbKOSzSAKxdHPASZUrSGfSu9pq7Zo=; b=dokIMHaL1KLi4Di3cUyK/qbFlS2LoNLIe4xcj1H31ZhPLzlcr7aOQKnoBlZD/2bah8 z3HfEpeVLl7hnV1IAAbZfaIuGheBi5/Uuw+ldjQyQHX7Kk+azbp9+W3Hdv9DpoEpb7Ii VdaaWQG/MjlY4wIHqngNSkoLPsx40iwtH3uHwmO3KhdxsB/lBCESiJ7Tw+Ad5C2VQEfK saxbih7t97tbhvLq9kgFEKfLdUFCeorEPqTrTekJ0hIuPUcwMaT4kT1YZoN+pVZe/S01 eyTyOKVA//4/MoghdMIDrIIoP3mi+UFe5QP8NsDh/3QC/vK7+0+FZ7QA3zfGcLJ8Qf+j iXwg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.113.3.167 with SMTP id bx7mr1322682lbd.64.1402921230893; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.137.69 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140616115928.GL4747@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <201405140000.s4E002sO029919@freefall.freebsd.org> <20140616115928.GL4747@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:20:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-14:03.pkg From: Tom Evans To: Baptiste Daroussin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Stable , Dave Duchscher X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:20:33 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > I'm really sorry to hear that, how could we have improved our communication to > reduce the inpact on users like the one you had? (what would you have expected?) > ISTM that the earlier you jumped on to pkgng the more it hurt you. I thought I'd waited until it was stable, and re-wrote my jail deployment process to bootstrap pkgng and set up my own repo, only to have it repeatedly break - by changing how to run the bootstrap, and then changing how repos are organized. Eg I had a jail that perfectly happily was updating from my repo, pkg gets upgraded on the jail, it cannot recognise the configuration for my repo anymore and starts pulling from a completely different repo! I get that getting things perfectly right first time is hard, but it seems that things were changed to the "right" way without too much thought about people doing it the "current" way - and that's a pain. Cheers Tom