From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Aug 9 23:49: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from high-voltage.com (voltage.high-voltage.com [205.243.158.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21CE414D70 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from BMCGROARTY@high-voltage.com) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 1:21 -0600 From: "Brian McGroarty" To: "Chris Coleman" Cc: "freebsd-advocacy" Subject: RE: Re: Marketing FreeBSD / FreeBSD as a pr Message-ID: <8D78D2FFB44AD31186D40008C7333C82@high-voltage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris - I'd appreciate an opportunity to preview where she's going with that if she's amenable. I'm negotiating with a couple of our designers today to get the ball rolling on a flashier box design. I'm wordsmithing some of the feature & strength lists from this week and a peer review list coming soon. I'd also like to get my hands on the sources for the current FreeBSD box. An uncut box or a box would be a big plus too; I want to see the dimensions of the cut sheet. Never know. We might be able to print finger puppets, daemon pogs or something equally silly for trade shows in the discards. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Coleman [mailto:chrisc@vmunix.com] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 10:51 AM To: Brian McGroarty; Gregory Sutter Cc: Jordan K. Hubbard; brian; Wes Peters; freebsd-advocacy Subject: Re: Marketing FreeBSD / FreeBSD as a pr My wife is currently working on a FreeBSD 4.0 CD cover. Her work will not be free, but it should be very good. Chris Coleman Daemon News Editor in Chief http://www.daemonnews.org Bringing BSD together On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Gregory Sutter wrote: > Jordan, > > You know how you're constantly talking about having huge numbers of > things that need to be done, and nobody actually doing them? Well... > > >On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 05:48:44PM -0700, Brian McGroarty wrote: > > > If the advocacy team wants to work on turning the FreeBSD > > > 4.0-RELEASE release into a major event, I'll contribute articles > > 1. Brian will contribute articles. > > > > on how it's helped me develop for the Nintendo 64, foot the bill > > > to enlist a couple artists' help in producing a nice cover and > > 2. Brian will pay the bill for cover artwork for a CDROM. > > > > help strategize a nice PR maneuver to coincide with release. I > > 3. Brian will assist with PR, something that is sorely needed. > > > > *strongly* believe in FreeBSD, and I'll do what I can to help it > > > along. > > 4. He is planning unspecified future help in addition to the three > things above. > > On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 09:51:31PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I've also said many times that anyone with better artwork to suggest > > need only step forward with said artwork and I'd be more than happy to > > consider it - where do you think the original "daemon walking out of a > > CD" artwork came from? > > You didn't say it to him. > > > I've also since spent around $1500 commissioning various bits of > > artwork which nobody seems to like, so if people really have a jones > > to see new artwork they're going to have to start drawing it and > > sending it in because I'm tired of throwing money away. > > You won't have to throw money away. Brian has graciously offered > to have it drawn at no charge to FreeBSD or Walnut Creek. > > > > But first TPTB need to accept that marketing and presentation > > > are every bit as important as anything else in realizing broad > > > distribution. Even breaking in media takes something that looks > > > > Of course we realize that, we're not idiots. However, I fail to see > > how your original comments attacking the daemon constitute a "positive > > contribution" to changing this. > > This was a preliminary suggestion, and was quickly withdrawn when the > result of the suggestion became apparent. Not everyone is intimately > familiar with the innards of BSD culture. A lesson was learned, and > the other offers still extended. You are fixating on one point, and > that point was a quickly dropped part of an offer to do service for > the FreeBSD Project. I cannot believe that you are so hostile > toward potential contributions. You should reread and think about > this offer again, if it's not too late. > > Greg > -- > Gregory S. Sutter Computing is a terminal addiction. > mailto:gsutter@pobox.com > http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ > PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message