From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 12 14:44:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1670CA14167 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B5619D3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id EFE5EA14166; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7A8A14165 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A155F19D2 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1a7lPl-0003xS-UB; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:44:51 +0600 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id tBCEjWcX052235; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:45:32 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id tBCEjQQ9052224; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:45:26 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:45:26 +0600 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: "Michael B. Eichorn" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for AMD APU based laptop with good FreeBSD support Message-ID: <20151212144526.GA49628@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20151212140559.GA33436@regency.nsu.ru> <1449930638.6661.10.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1449930638.6661.10.camel@michaeleichorn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Lua-Profiles: 88175 [Dec 12 2015] X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Version: 5.5.6 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Envelope-From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Rate: 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not_detected X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Method: none X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Moebius-Timestamps: 3866895, 3866906, 3866829 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Info: LuaCore: 378 378 1e7ea7963800114ee93165eacd681fad09c7a7a4, 127.0.0.200:7.1.3; regency.nsu.ru:7.1.1; d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.com:7.1.1; 193.124.210.26:7.1.2,7.1.3; nsu.ru:7.1.1; 127.0.0.199:7.1.2 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: scan successful X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2015/12/07 15:50:10 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, license restriction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:44:57 -0000 On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 09:30:38AM -0500, Michael B. Eichorn wrote: > Well, HP is one of the worst offenders with device whitelisting, > swapping out wifi on them is rarely worth the trouble. Yeah I know; not so long ago it was possible to outwit their whitelisting without patching the BIOS code [1] but apparently it got worse from what I've heard. :-( > Also Haswell graphics is close, really close, I have been running the > git branch for a while now and things are almost there. > > And finally, for what it is worth, Kris Moore of PCBSD has mentioned > that he has been able to run Haswell and Broadwell with the VESA driver > while waiting. VESA is fine if all you need is plain X11 and xterm. I'd like to have decent OpenGL performance though, given that AMD's still ahead of Intel in this field. > Just more data points, I am not saying your choices are bad or wrong, > just more data. Understood, thanks for replying. ./danfe [1] http://milksnot.com/content/project-dirty-laundry-how-defeat-whitelisting-without-bios-modding