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Date:      Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:19:53 -0500
From:      Alexander Chamandy <bsdfreak@gmail.com>
To:        bob@a1poweruser.com
Cc:        crs@swcp.com
Subject:   Re: Help!
Message-ID:  <f420b2a10503280619464061ea@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGEEMFHCAA.bob@a1poweruser.com>
References:  <200503272250.PAA01070@quail.sorsby.org> <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGEEMFHCAA.bob@a1poweruser.com>

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Bob is right.  Aside from exciting features and performance
enhancements, however, one major reason to upgrade is security. 
There's a lot of serious vulnerabilities in older releases, it's
important to keep your system up to date to prevent them from being
exploited.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:48:00 -0500, bob@a1poweruser.com
<bob@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
> Use your 3.4 FreeBSD system or a win system to download the mini.iso
> file for 4.11 and then burn it to cd. Boot your box from the 4.11
> mini newly created cd and accept the default slice sizes, select not
> to install the ports collection.  The ports collection is over 3000
> strong now and some are variations of same base port. You are being
> foolish to select all ports as that is unnecessary and a gross waist
> of disk space. After base install is complete then select the ports
> you want and install separately.
> 
> You are way back level and there has been great changes in the
> system and the sysinstall process. Read and follow this Install
> guide for step by step instructions for 4.11 release as it's the
> same as 4.10.
> 
> http://freebsd.packards-home.net/index.php
> 
> Yes FreeBSD CAN be installed on the fourth of four SCSI disk drives
> on the second of two SCSI cards, but if you have other operating
> systems on those other disks you will have to manual update the MBR
> (master boot record)  multi boot program on the HD the PC bios point
> to for selecting which operating system you want to boot from.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charlie
> Sorsby
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Help!
> 
> Every time I turn round, someone is telling me that I should update
> to a more recent version of freeBSD.  Each time I try, I encounter
> nothing but trouble.
> 
> Before I even begin:  *CAN* freeBSD be installed on the fourth of
> four SCSI disk drives on the second of two SCSI cards?
> 
> I know of no way to record the error messages other than with
> pencil and paper -- not a very efficient method in this computer
> age, especially when one is in the throes of frustration.
> 
> I tried some time ago, updating to 4.5, the latest version for
> which I have a CDROM.  When I encountered problems and queried this
> list, I received a message to the effect that the installer should
> quit working after X years.  Perhaps that was tongue in cheek but
> it was singularly unhelpful.
> 
> So, I continued to use 3.4 which, aside from the fact that I can't
> add anything new or update any ports or ... has stood me in good
> stead for years.
> 
> Finally getting tired of using netscape 4.76 -- I've been
> unsuccessful
> at finding any "modern" browser that I can install under 3.4 --
> and having it crashed by "modern" web sites, I decided to try again.
> I fetched the floppy images for 4.11 -- I have no interest in 5.x,
> 4.x is far enough removed from real BSD that I wouldn't go that
> route it I had a choice.
> 
> Busy with other things, I finally got round to trying an ftp
> install today.
> 
> Before I proceed, I suppose that I'd best tell you what my system
> comprises:
> 
> M'board:        Intel D845WN
> 
> CPU:            P4, 2.4GHz, 478, 512K, 400MHz FSB
> 
> Memory:         Crucial 512MB, 168-pin, DIMM 64Mx64, PC133 SDRAM
> 
> Case:           Antec Sonata with Antec "TruePower" supply.
> 
> SCSI cards (presently, the Adaptec is in the PCI slot closer to the
> CPU):
>                 Adaptec 2940
>                 Tekram DC-390U2W
> 
> Ethernet;       Intel PRO100S
> 
> Disk drives (The first three are on the 2940, the fourth on the
> Tekram):
>                 IBM DORS-32160 WA0A, 2GB (from original system,
>                         with leftover freeBSD 2.1.5 stuff,
>                         no longer bootable.)
>                 Seagate ST34501N 0015, 4GB (with freeBSD 3.4)
>                 Seagate ST39216N 0010, 9GB (/home -- no OS)
>                 Seagate ST318517W 0105, 18GB (on which I tried
>                         to install 4.5 before and 4.11 today.
> 
> CDROM drive:    Plextor (don't recall specs.)
> 
> Video card:     Matrox Millennium G400, AGP4X, 32MB SGRAM
> 
> Oh -- FWIW, I'm also running XFree86 4.1.0 although that should not
> be relevant to the installation problem but, like the feller says,
> for the sake of completeness...
> 
> (I'll append -- at the end of this message -- dmesg from latest
> boot after unsuccessful installation to cover anything that I've
> forgotten.  This system has simply evolved over the years.)
> 
> I hope I won't forget any parts of this; I had to get back to 3.4
> in order to be able to do this e-mail.  I got through the fdisk
> and disklabel (re)configuration of the fourth disk onto which I
> planned to install freeBSD 4.11 (having selected "Standard Install")
> 
> Here's what I tried to set up as (Unix) partitions (remember this
> is on the 18GB drive):
> 
>     /            128MB          # Thought this should be more than
> enough
>     swap         512MB
>     /usr        4196MB
>     /var         512MB
>     /usr/local  4196MB
>     /tmp         512MB
>     /spare      # Everything else -- to be disposed of later.
> 
> I then proceeded to choose the installation "package" or whatever
> it's called -- I chose "ALL" and then replied yes to the query
> about installing the ports collection.
> 
> I believe that the next query was the choice of installation medium;
> I chose (the first) ftp and the first (ftp.freebsd.org?) server in
> the list and fetching the bits and pieces began.
> 
> Within a very few minutes, the installer complained that it had run
> out of space on / -- why it would have tried to fetch everything to
> the root partition is beyond me but that's what it said.  Oh --
> there was one previous complaint about not being able to create a
> swap partition that I'd requested as partition b.  I don't
> understand that, either.
> 
> Aside (just in case it may be relevant):  Recently, I've not been
> able to boot the CDROM.  I had no reason to try when I rebuilt the
> system some time ago with the Intel m'board and Antec case.  I
> first noticed it some time ago when I tried to install 4.5.  I had
> never had a problem with the old Gigabyte m'board system.  As I
> said, I don't know if this is relevant but thought I'd better
> mention it just in case.
> 
> Here's the dmesg output:
> 
> Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights
> reserved.
> FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #6: Tue Jun 29 08:43:56 MDT 2004
>     root@quail.sorsby.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERNEL.CRS
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 2392250892 Hz
> CPU: unknown (2392.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf27  Stepping = 7
> 
> Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR
> ,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,<b19>,<b21>,<b22>,MMX,FXSR,<b25>,<b26>,<b27>
> ,<b28>,<b29>,<b31>>
> real memory  = 536870912 (524288K bytes)
> config> di wdc1
> config> di wdc0
> config> q
> avail memory = 519696384 (507516K bytes)
> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e4000.
> Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02e409c.
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> chip0: <Host to PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=1a30)> rev 0x03 on
> pci0.0.0
> chip1: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=1a31)> rev 0x03 on
> pci0.1.0
> chip2: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=244e)> rev 0x05 on
> pci0.30.0
> chip3: <PCI to ISA bridge (vendor=8086 device=2440)> rev 0x05 on
> pci0.31.0
> uhci0: <UHCI USB Controller (generic)> rev 0x05 int d irq 11 on
> pci0.31.2
> (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24428086)
> uhci1: <UHCI USB Controller (generic)> rev 0x05 int c irq 11 on
> pci0.31.4
> (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24448086)
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
> vga0: <Matrox model 0525 graphics accelerator> rev 0x04 int a irq 11
> on pci1.0.0
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 2:
> ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci2.10.0
> ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> ncr0: <ncr 53c895 fast40 wide scsi> rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on
> pci2.11.0
> fxp0: <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 0x0c int a irq
> 10 on pci2.12.0
> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:eb:02:ba
> Probing for PnP devices:
> Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
> sc0 on isa
> sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
> atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
> psm0 irq 12 on isa
> psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
> sio1: type 16550A
> fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
> ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
> ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
> ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP
> Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
> ppbus0: <hp deskjet 5550> PRINTER MLC,PCL,PML,DW-PCL,DYN,DESKJET
> lpt0: <generic printer> on ppbus 0
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> ppi0: <generic parallel i/o> on ppbus 0
> plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus 0
> vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
> npx0 on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> usb0: <UHCI USB Controller (generic)>
> uhub0 at usb0
> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> usb1: <UHCI USB Controller (generic)>
> uhub1 at usb1
> uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> uhub1: device problem, disabling port 2
> Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> changing root device to da1s1a
> da3 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da3: <SEAGATE ST318417W 0105> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged
> Queueing Enabled
> da3: 17547MB (35937500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2237C)
> da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
> da2: <SEAGATE ST39216N 0010> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled
> da2: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C)
> cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> cd0: <PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-32TS 1.03> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device
> cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
> cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not
> present
> da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
> da1: <SEAGATE ST34501N 0015> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled
> da1: 4339MB (8887200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
> da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <IBM DORS-32160 WA0A> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled
> da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C)
> 
> Thank you for any help you may be able to provide.
> 
> Kindest regards,
> 
> Charlie
> --
> Charlie Sorsby
>         crs@swcp.com
>         P. O. Box 1225
>         Edgewood, NM 87015
>         USA
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