From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 21:46:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3DC1065690; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEDC8FC4B; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3393523yxe.3 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:46:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr4675590ybb.138.1250459167191; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:46:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> References: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:46:07 -0700 Message-ID: <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> From: Murray Stokely To: Colin Percival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Edu Carneiro Subject: Re: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:46:08 -0000 A fair point, and in that case perhaps a short paragraph introducing the reader to the class of cloud based online backup systems as a viable alternative to tape backup solutions in 2009, rather than listing any specific services. A final sentence could then invite the reader to peruse google or the commercial vendors page for specific services. - Murray On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Colin Percival wrote: > Murray Stokely wrote: >> I'd really like to see a new section here about commercial cloud based >> backup offerings, including TarSnap as the most FreeBSD-friendly >> variety, but also including some of the other services built on AWS or >> other cloud services that can be used with FreeBSD. > > Thanks for the plug. :-) > > There are a couple of companies listed under http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ > as providing backup services (www.ahsay.com, www.exavault.com) but I don't see > anything special about them aside from the fact that they presumably submitted > PRs asking to be added -- to be honest, I'm not entirely certain why there is a > "Commercial Vendors" page on the FreeBSD website at all when google does a much > better job of finding vendors. > > While I'm always eager to have more people hear about tarsnap, I think putting > any sort of list of vendors into the handbook would just end up as a huge mess > unless there's a very clear policy about which companies get listed -- and I > really can't imagine how to draw up such a policy. > > -- > Colin Percival > Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve > Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid >