Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:15:06 +0200 From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> To: Jeremie Le Hen <jeremie@le-hen.org> Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDcan slides uploaded Message-ID: <20777.1116508506@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 May 2005 15:09:19 %2B0200." <20050519130919.GL818@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org>
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In message <20050519130919.GL818@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org>, Jeremie Le Hen writ es: >Hi, > >> I have uploaded my slides from BSDcan2005 >> >> http://phk.freebsd.dk/pubs/bsdcan2005_ioctl.pdf > >I read this paper with attention, I was wondering if there is >actually any upcoming kernel work in this area. The paper is mostly a status report. The g_ctl and nmount stuff is in the kernel and the paper is the result of me wondering if those two shouldn't use the exact same mechanisms and functions rather than being almost, but not quite entirely, identical. Real progress in this area would take more time than I would hope to have available myself in the near term. Ideally we should get some rapport between the various projects (including Linux) about moving forward in this area, but given that this topic is intensely prone to bikeshedding, I don't think it even wise to attempt to do so. The best way forward might be for some small dedicated group of hackers to sit down, think it out (including the points raised at BSDcan about i18n etc) and implement a userland library and a set of kernel convenience functions (both hiding what goes between them) and get that working. If that becomes a success and it is easily portable to other OS (because the exact kernel-barrier mechanism is implementation dependent) then maybe we stand a chance of improving this little corner of UNIX over the next decade or so. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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