From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 7 13:18:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CD0106566C for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 13:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62588FC0A for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 13:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28181; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 07:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201110071318.HAA28181@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:18:37 -0600 To: Ed Schouten From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20111007110227.GW91943@hoeg.nl> References: <201109260053.SAA25795@lariat.net> <20111007110227.GW91943@hoeg.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:44:36 +0000 Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experiences with FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:18:45 -0000 At 05:02 AM 10/7/2011, Ed Schouten wrote: >It should be xterm, since syscons now uses an xterm-style terminal >emulator. Interesting. Apparently, the xterm termcap does not work properly for it. >I have never used jove before, so what should I do to >reproduce this? Have you ever used EMACS? jove is just one implementation of it (but without the huge overhead imposed by the LISP interpreter in GNU EMACS). In any event, build and install the port, and then try to edit a file. Just simple stuff, like moving the cursor, backspacing over characters to delete them, inserting characters in the middle of lines. Among other things, you'll see portions of lines vanish from the screen while you're editing, until you hit ^L (the EMACS command to refresh the screen) a couple of times. The older syscons driver worked very well with the "cons25" termcap entry, but the one in 9.0-BETA2 and 9.0-BETA3 does NOT work well with the "xterm" termcap entry. Many artifacts. You almost can't edit. I have had to log in via SSH and use vt100 rather than using the console. --Brett Glass