From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 10:35:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B75CFFD9; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x232.google.com (mail-qa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 231CA14C6; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id cm18so5160752qab.9 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:35:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZnUuZ/ScId/cuepDBR9tJ9F2h6u8GzHxtU7rWzbZz08=; b=qs2M+LORT8tazeSVsMCCfviGkaLcqhOXeN8UwlTZL9c3ZuvsrfNVXH6/5iGPhi1e29 oPy7gFTn0WqGJcvOHFridBFuAI1o0PEuRiaUrDm/e2dOYGhmeuBOmFC8XhuC1YStZG5l +l5/wJEeDnax1w5YdvwVsy5FR1zyj/k4JtCAWYiP3sS40FK1ti1qDRNco/BRbRBwEMn+ 3I8BRvcn6jI/MgxdMMfmk5wMe7eE1O9RT38YiRgo7jhThBvmbRuX39C0TkWMlYYtS7rM +Ckea/tdfKMbv93m+s/4wmVp/bM/6CllM4lEx/Ctjr6YiNIc+HtVac7zygeMQ3k3q9NM ZitQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.13.133 with SMTP id c5mr4157371qca.22.1390646146294; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.208.202 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:35:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E30990.2060903@marino.st> References: <52E2FA36.5080106@marino.st> <52E303CB.6020304@marino.st> <52E30990.2060903@marino.st> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:35:46 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? From: Big Lebowski To: marino@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:35:47 -0000 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:47 AM, John Marino wrote: > On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote: > > I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized > > around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that > > people who can make decisions and changes would notice it and consider > > them, since as they say, the squeeky wheel gets the grease, that's all. > At > > no point I insisted on forcing anyone to anything, and I dont think > that's > > neither only nor a viable solution. > > > > It seems obvious that current process doesnt work very well, then I'd aim > > at reorganizing that process - it appears that there is no roles > specified, > > so the responsibility is blurred, and when everyone is responsible for > one > > thing, in practice no one is. Perhaps role assignment could be of any > help? > > I'm not trying to be a jerk, but surely I'm coming off that way. > Again, nobody is obligated to accept any assignment. They have to > volunteer to do it. The only person that The Big Lebowski can influence > here is himself. > You are right, but that doesnt mean we cant speak about the problem and ask if there are other people seeing it and maybe willing to help fixing it. That is not equal to forcing anyone to do anything, but rather in a spirit of open source volunteering and at the end it doesnt harm anyone, even if there's no good result out of it. > > Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you > really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis, > my guess is that would be very welcome and we'd figure out a way to set > that up. It would definitely help, especially for those maintainer that > "approve" patches but the PRs never get opened (or set to a better state > than "open"). > If I wouldnt care about FreeBSD and ports state and I wouldnt want to help with that, I would have not wrote this message in first place. Yes, I would love to help. > > At some point we'll have a new PR system, that fact might be having an > impact on current PRs as well... > At what point? Are there any plans, someone said he's working on it, are there any decisions? I am not trying to attack your statement, but simply get some information about the current state of things. > > John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >