From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 25 12:38:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58A5106566B for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8521A8FC13 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so491518ywf.13 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.63.14 with SMTP id l14mr3638014aga.185.1298637498663; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y21sm367865yhc.18.2011.02.25.04.38.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:38:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19E75E54828 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110225073814.57dcdd68@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20110224102357.15af921c@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: HAL's demise X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:38:20 -0000 On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:20:13 -0700 (MST) Warren Block articulated: > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: > > > 2011/2/24 Warren Block : > >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote: > >> > >>> Is FreeBSD now "HAL" free or is it still a requirement? I still > >>> have it activated via "/etc/rc.conf" If it is not needed, I would > >>> be happy to remove the entry. > >> > >> It's not a requirement.  You can build xorg-server without it, and > >> there are other mechanisms available to provide at least some of > >> the same functionality in FreeBSD.  For example, using devd to > >> detect hot-plugged USB devices.  There isn't yet a complete > >> replacement like Linux's udev, though. > > > > Sounded like a good idea to me but ;) > > > > pkg_deinstall hal-0.5.14_12 > > ---> Deinstalling 'hal-0.5.14_12' > > pkg_delete: package 'hal-0.5.14_12' is required by these other > > packages and may not be deinstalled: > > Well, actually I wasn't thinking of anything but xorg and device > detection. The newest xfce removed support for hal. Maybe GNOME and > KDE are in the process of doing the same. GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even distributing it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party? -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________